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Yep. Shain the guy. >> Andrew show. >> We are the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Back for another week of Brilliant Idiot. >> You got to breathe. Can you breathe? >> Heck Walker. What's happening? >> Hello, sir. How are you? >> How was your weekend, man? >> Man, last weekend of the summer, man. I I was I'll be honest. I was a little sad. >> Last weekend of summer for me was a week ago. >> Why? >> Kids went back to school. Once the kids go back to school, >> your kids go back to school in August. >> Yeah, they went back to the last week in August. >> For Labor Day. >> That's crazy. >> And that's what I'm saying. That's when the summer was officially over then. No, that's >> But I think I I think the teachers do that on purpose. Like at least in Jersey, they go back a week >> and then they know. Yeah. They knock the rust off. They know they got a nice little 4 day weekend, three day weekend, whatever it is. Then they get back to the uh the thick of things. Not even this week. Next week, really. >> Wait, did your daughter go to college this year? >> She did. >> Holy moly. >> Yeah. Guacamole. >> How is that? Oh no, man. >> Crazy separation anxiety. >> Is it a boy and girl school? >> Shut up. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Damn. That first week is usually [ __ ] crazy. >> It's just is it, you know, it's just crazy separ It's crazy separation. >> I remember my first week, man, that [ __ ] was crazy. >> It was a great first. >> No, you shouldn't worry about anything. But there is a dad that should cuz man, those girls were going crazy. >> Nothing you can do. >> There's nothing you could do. We did a lot though. >> There's nothing you can do, man. >> You got a few years. You got what? 15 years. >> I know, but we won't be doing a pie by then. So, IT AIN'T THE POD THAT YOU GOT TO GET WORRIED ABOUT DOING. >> I'm worried about you. >> No. Okay. >> No, but she's okay. Everything's fine. >> Yeah. I mean, the only thing you have as a father is like severe separation anxiety. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Like unbelievable. >> Are you calling her a lot? >> Oh, yeah. >> Really? >> I've spoken to her more in the past month than I ever did in my life on the phone. >> You know what I'm saying? Like texting, calling. Like it's not even close. Like Yeah. And it feels good cuz >> Well, you're going to though. Yeah. >> As a father, that's all you want. You just want to still feel needed. >> You want to still feel needed, man. >> That's it. >> Yeah. >> That's all it is. >> But eventually, she's going to have to find somebody. >> I mean, hope she finds somebody good. That guy that whoever that person is is going to have a tall task ahead of them. >> No, but Yeah, but like you find a few until you find your guy like >> maybe >> you try TO GET KILLED. >> WHAT? >> YOU DON'T THINK HE'D BE TORTURING ME? YOU DON'T THINK YOU'D BE TORTURING? THAT'S A LIE. MY DAUGHTER TO COLLEGE TO to not right here. I think he'd be torturing >> to not to not accept the fact that you know you do realize the woman you are with is somebody's daughter, right? >> He's been saying >> the woman you're married to is somebody's daughter. Like your mother is somebody's daughter. >> My mother is somebody. >> You know what I'm saying? Like you've been saying this though that >> I KNOW THAT I LISTEN I understand it. I get it. Like to like >> every woman out here is somebody's daughter. >> Exactly. But my question is a lot of white guys at this school, right? >> Are you ready next? Not this Thanksgiving. >> It's not happening. >> Next Thanksgiving. >> It's not happening. >> Bringing somebody home. >> That one I'm not even >> You're crazy. >> Am I crazy? >> Yeah. Yeah. That one I'm >> crazy. I'm not even nice white guy. >> So, wait. Do you think that for Thanksgiving? >> For Thanksgiving. Two years. >> She doesn't have to be attracted to them, though. >> No, but it's not happening. >> You don't think she's going to bring home a cracker? >> No. You don't think a cracker's going to come and knock on your door? Nice Jewish boy. >> You don't think that he's going to bring she going to bring home a matzah? >> No. >> Have you had those conversations with her though? >> Yes. >> So, she got to be with a black guy. >> I let her hear Dr. Umar's speeches. >> Let me ask you a question, Dr. Umar. Are you totally against interracial relationships? >> I am totally against it. And I want to make sure you understand why. It's not because >> Cut it out, EMMY. CUT IT OUT. ENMY, >> don't do that. Envy, I'm having a serious time. >> We have a name for it. >> We have a name for it. The snow bunny crisis. >> Okay. >> I am against the snow bunny crisis. >> Dr. Omar, don't listen to Dr. Umar. Listen. Since she was the age of four. >> Don't put Dr. Umar. You're a mall kiosk. >> Listen. Since she was the age of four. >> What? Okay. >> Let her hear Dr. Umar speeches. Okay. >> Yeah. >> She's good. >> Is she going to an HB.CU? >> No. Your daughter? No. >> So the statistics will probably be in white guys. That's not true. It's black people at the school. Smad black people to school. >> I went to all white schools. >> I'm saying statistically there's more white people. >> No. Yeah. But that's >> statistically there's more white people in the world in America. She's also going to be in more white people >> in America. In America people just remember we are the minority. >> She's going to be >> and we've done except in in the in the world >> for being a minority in the world. We have done exceptionally well >> in America. As a minority, I just want to say we've done a fantastic draw job picking ourselves up by our bootstraps. >> Oh god. >> As minorities, right, Chris? >> Facts. >> Charlemagne, what does it feel like? >> What does it feel like to be getting interviewed by Charlemagne? >> What? >> Cuz that's what this is. This is right now. This is like a all on Avengers attack on you. >> And I'm showing y'all how to handle it cuz it don't bother me. See, the problem is it would bother all all of y'all. >> Yeah, it would. No, it don't bother me. >> If she said that [ __ ] to me, >> [ __ ] >> I said worse. >> I might I did fully embrace give a [ __ ] >> But that's what you have to do. And Chris, no. When your child goes off, >> it's let go. It's over. Like it it's part of it. And it helps me to parent my other three better because I probably was too much of a micromanager, >> right? And now I'm forced to let go. Like you like ah. >> But also it's going to come freely. Like how I talked to Well, I don't talk to my dad about everything single thing, but he knows like who why >> I'm saying like I'm not talking to him about >> about what? >> I talked about dating guys. But >> why are you talking about college? Like why were you not talking about majors and what you're going to be in life? WHY? WHY DO YOU GO TO D? >> I don't remember. But no, you got I'm telling you the the the craziest thing about college and there's a bunch of fathers out there that go through it. It's funny when you >> do it. Chris was going through it last year. >> It's worse this year. >> Wait, why? >> Why? It's the sophomore year. Why >> you wait? What? >> Last year, my daughter had real bad separation anxiety. She wanted to come home after her first. >> You didn't have it. You didn't have it. The one we met. >> She I'm out of here. I'm coming home like a weekend. >> How far is school? >> Across the country. >> Oh. And I was like, "Trust me, you're going to be happy for about 30 seconds when you come home. Then I'm going to start charging rent for your half of the bedroom. >> Yeah. >> You're going to be miserable. You're going to be under so much pressure to get a job. You got to stick it out. You got to stick it out." So what I was telling Sar before his daughter went, I was like, I know how hard it is, but actually the worst version is them not being happy there. That's what's I mean, my life was miserable for like two months. >> Yeah. >> She was crying every day. I don't fit in. I'm upset. I'm depressed. I want Long story short, she stuck it out. She loves it now. She's very happy there. So this year I'm kind of like relaxed. And then I realized, oh god, I really [ __ ] miss her. >> Yeah. Now you miss her. >> Before that's what I had. I I got separation anxiety now. Like even when you talk like guys and stuff is the least of your worries. What you concerned about is just her period. Period. You're being alone. >> Guys are the only worries, bro. >> Yes. That's the only This is real talk. The most important thing is you. Girls were horny, man. >> You want your kids to tell you? >> I worried about safety. The girls were >> They were They were outrageously horny, bro. It was insane. >> But does she do you know she liked Yeah. Get away from >> Did you know she had her first like alcohol or anything like that? >> I'm not Stuff LIKE THAT IS NOT MY daughter's got fake ID in the club every night. >> That's Michael. Those are micros. The answer is yes. >> What? >> But she knows how to handle all that. She knows how to handle. But those are those are micros. I'm saying that's micro >> because the thing I cons I'm concerned about safety safety. >> But that's a safety concern too, though. >> No, no, no. I'm think No, no, no. Come on. >> I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, but you don't understand what I'm saying. I'm I'm thinking about something else. Like you got to think when you have been with a person their whole life. >> Their whole life. >> For 18 years. No. Just that you've been protecting them for 18 years. >> So much MORE WORK. >> SHE'S NOT. >> SHE DON'T understand cuz she don't have an older child yet. >> No. Wait. Tell you what I'm trying to say. Can I tell you something? What? >> I went to a party school and these girls were >> I'm not talking about the hoes. >> It was We DON'T GET IT. LIKE THAT'S the light [ __ ] Like that trade is coming. That's the light [ __ ] LIKE >> GET OUT OF HERE. THAT'S THE LIGHT [ __ ] We're not worried about that. >> You're not inviting the party. We're not talking about party >> safety. It's dangling. I was literally here's what you're going to have to deal with. >> This is what's really tough. This coming summer when they come home from school and now there's no more curfew. >> They're used to. So I had that this summer. She's out till 4:00 a.m. >> I'm waking up at 3:00 a.m. 3:30. Like, where the [ __ ] is she? >> Where was she? >> She was at a club. >> What club? >> I don't know. But then I go to my app. And I see that now it's 5:30 a.m. 6:00 a.m. They're at the same place. And I'm like, "Hold on. This place is shut down. There's no way these kids are in there still. And if they're still in there, something bad's happening." So I get all my [ __ ] together >> to go to go. I tell my wife, "Yo, I'm going down to this club. I got to see what's going on. And she's like, I don't think that's what it is. And I was like, what is it? And I She's like, her friend's boyfriend has an apartment in that building. >> Oh. >> So I said, "You sure?" And she goes, "Yeah." So finally 9:00 they called me. Oh, yeah. We just went to We decided to crash at his house. >> 9:00. What? In the morning? >> Yeah. But because the club and the apartment building were in the same building, so I just thought that they were >> That's how when you come home from college, you get it like the same. >> There's no There's no more curfew. >> Exactly. But you also know who you also know. I got to hear you know who your child is though. >> Chris at 3 in the morning telling his wife. >> I think she's still in the club. >> When I'm saying safety stuff can happen. >> I GOT TO GO CHECK UP ON HER. BABE, I'LL BE RIGHT BACK. >> FEEL LIKE YOU GOT life 360. >> Yeah, life 360. Absolutely. >> I know. I just used find my location on Apple. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> I'm just saying safety cuz when I went back to the alcohol, that's why I was >> That's how I know you ain't got no family. >> Yeah. >> Damn. Damn. >> You ain't got no one you care about, man. Yeah, you got no life 360. >> I don't I've never heard of >> it's a app that tells you where everybody. It's a little mush for me. I I I just used to find them my location. >> No, you need light 360. >> Life 360 fire 360. >> Life 360. Way fire. >> I don't even got find my >> But that's But listen, I'm not even joking. Enjoy that. >> Yeah, >> cuz in 16 years How old your daughter? My daughter is two and a half and I'm going right after this podcast ends to her preschool like initiation night. Ah, >> and you're going to raise them in New York City? >> Yeah, I think so. >> All right. So, you got 10 years. >> 10 years for what? >> Till it starts. >> Yeah. >> Outside. >> New York City. >> 12 and a half city. In middle school, there was a girl that was doing [ __ ] that was outlandish. New York City starts. >> Middle school. >> Middle school is high school everywhere else. >> It's crazy. It's crazy. Chris. >> Damn. Yeah. >> What you say? New York. >> Yeah, New York. >> It was like that in [ __ ] Laura Marian. >> Yeah, >> it was like that in lower Marian >> middle school. >> But even still, she's still going to be coming home. I'm not home at 12. Yeah. When she when when they go off to college, your first thought is, damn, she's not in the house no more. Your second thought is she might not ever be in the house >> again >> again. Do you do you think back to your wild days when you were that age? Like >> nah, I didn't go to college. I'm tell you that's not what I promise you and you'll see in the future you will not that's not your concern like those aren't the thoughts that are going to be going through your head >> really >> no Chris they going to know in the future they don't get it yet father the at least in my case your case we don't have the birds and the beast combo >> so you never had that combo >> I have the drug combo >> yeah but drug combo is easy birds and the bees is the one that's like you got to >> drug combo watch your surroundings combo >> watch your surroundings combo >> learn how to use this weapon combo which I've been doing for My daughter is carrying something now and I was if you pull that out, you got to be prepared to use it. Like it can't be for show. >> Wait, what is what do your daughters carry? >> Don't worry about it. >> Yeah, but >> okay. Don't worry about it. But that's what you that's what you that's what you teaching your child. Like >> guns should be legal for for girls. >> Thank you. >> And you got to start early. I mean, not to be a downer, but my >> But we got to take them away once you have babies. >> I know where you're going. >> We got to take them away. Once you once you girls have babies, we got to take them away. We might have to take away stretching. We might have to take away stretching bands, too. Then >> we got to take away everything and then once they have >> talking about the case, >> we got to take them away. We can't I think women should be able to have guns up until they have babies. And then we got kids with guns though, right? >> Stretching bands. >> You don't think if she had one she would have? >> Might have been better. >> Probably. That [ __ ] was crazy. >> I mean, better in the most relative sense. I just can't imagine strangling your own [ __ ] >> Oh god, let's not talk about that. That's so dark. Terrible. The thing that bugs me out about her case is how calm she is in court. >> It's like no emotion whatsoever. Not a te anger. Like she's just like a she's so like a robot in court. Like >> bro, they're crazy, man. >> Stop. >> You would think you would see some crazy. >> Their women are crazy, bro. And what we got to stop doing is acting like >> No, that's not a special case. >> We enable it. We enable >> Never try to harm my child. But the reason but the reason it's not a special case is because it happens often postpartum. >> No, absolutely. You're right. But >> it's too common. But it's it's not even a postpartum. We just allow you guys to be crazy and we don't call it out enough. And maybe if we did then it would be a little safer for everybody. >> But then there was a black woman in the Bronx that they didn't send to jail for killing her kids. Really? >> There's like a million of these. Like but as a father of daughters, like this is another thing I worry about. Like can you imagine if your daughter has a baby and like the entire family's looking forward to this and there's so much joy. >> They can't be allowed just to go free though. There's got to be cont. >> I don't know what the answer is, man. What do you mean? The answer is you lock them up forever. >> I I don't know if it's jail, but it's it's like a mental institution. Yeah, definitely a mental mental institution. >> I mean, mental institution is technically jail. You know what I mean? It's like Yeah. Like you're sentencing them to time. >> You just can't let them function society cuz other you can't you can't go back into SP for ending life is yours. >> They can't. Can you imagine walking around knowing that >> I'm saying like that Lindsy Clancy lady is going to go crazy at some point. And when it like when reality sets in and she's like, "Oh shit." >> You know what I mean? You sitting in your house and you see a outfit or >> you a memory flashes back, you she probably kill her. She tried to kill herself already. >> And she's paralyzed. >> She paralyzed. Yeah. >> Oh, that's what's happening right now. >> She's paralyzed from the waist down right now. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I didn't know. >> Bad scene. bad, man. Yeah, it's just >> it is Listen, life, man. >> We got to do better, man. >> Well, I think what you know what's scary about that, too, is if you look on paper, she did all the right things, right? She had severe postpartum. She saw a million different therapists and psychiatrists. She got different medications. They, you know, and she still did this horrific thing in the past with her having >> I don't think so, though. They say if you do have mental health issues, your chances of having a real serious postpartum problem go up significantly. So >> damn, >> it is real and a lot of women do. >> Why did it get so dark, bro? God damn. We was having a nice light-hearted conversation. >> I know. >> Jesus Christ. I >> mean, it's a dark topic. >> We got to make it Yeah, we got We can't make that topic silly, but we can be silly about other things. >> Can you make that topic silly? >> Not really. >> Nah. Yeah. I mean, there's always, you know, on the brilliant idiots, there's always a way to >> No, I mean, maybe >> there's always a way. >> No. No. Can we >> No, what you mean? >> That's not >> what you mean, man. >> My feeling is >> There's really not. >> You Yeah, there's really not. >> I think it's men's fault. >> Why? >> Cuz I think we let women be [ __ ] stupid all the time. >> We do. And then we don't call him out on being [ __ ] stupid all the time. And you would not tolerate the [ __ ] from us that we tolerate from you. >> I tolerate y'all all the time. >> Yeah, but you wouldn't tolerate the stupidity that y'all. >> You know what's interesting? Okay. Okay. Let's look Let >> Women can believe in rocks. You can believe in crystals having powers. THAT'S [ __ ] FOR THAT. LIKE >> THAT'S NOT A WOMAN THING. >> IF YOU WALKED INTO A MAN'S HOUSE AND HE'S LIKE, "OH, before you come in, I just need to sage the door." Would you be like, "Oh, this guy's on my spiritual wavelength. This guy's a [ __ ] loser that believes in sage." And >> listen, I have a theory. Think about this thought for a second. >> I feel the type of way that you're saging it when I come in cuz I'm not the devil. >> Listen, Lindsy Clancy, right? Lindsay Clancy killed her kids. >> Yeah. >> Rest in peace to those kids. They say it's postpartum psychosis. >> Yeah. What if in a rage, right, in a fit of insanity, the husband or the father of the children killed Lindsay? >> You know what I'm saying? >> Hard to prosecute. >> You see what I'm saying? Do do you prosecute him now? >> All right. What if what if what if Jeffrey Dmer was so hungry that he was enraged? >> Hangry. >> He got hangry. And that's why he had to eat up all those dudes. >> That don't that just went somewhere different. No, >> I'm talking about the circle. That's two different things. Okay. >> Right. What you said made a lot of sense when you said that sometimes we uh deal what was the word you used? You said we tolerate this [ __ ] from women, right? >> We just tolerate so trying to get laid. >> So postpartum psychosis that you're a Sagittarius. Shut the [ __ ] up. >> What if that leads to the father? How about you shut the [ __ ] up? How about you do that for me? >> I don't even know what he's talking about. >> Stupid. It's like guys, we just tolerate the most [ __ ] behavior from women. >> That is just a woman. >> Remember last week when I said he was going to say something dumb? You know what I mean? >> I'm defending not killing kids. >> Somehow you have turned this into misogyny of all women. >> It's misogynistic to apply the same level of respect for men and women. >> Huh? >> If I don't believe if Alex is talking about, oh, I can't come into work today. My rising sun is in Sagittarius. >> Who says that? >> Girls, >> they do not say I CAN'T COME TO WORK BECAUSE OF TODAY. >> NO. GOD, WE I BELIEVE IN ASTROLOGY, >> MAN. STOP. >> I do. It's worked for ME MY WHOLE LIFE. >> STOP. STOP. >> It's worked for me my whole life. >> You really believe in? >> I do. >> And you're saying if like >> yo, I can look at a can I can tell when somebody's a cancer. >> Like I know 50 Cent is a cancer. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? Just because by by how he moves. Like I get I can I I can see it. I can see the traits that I have in other people that are uh my sign. >> I'm going be honest though. >> I know you're a Libra. >> I'm not a Libra. >> No, he's a [ __ ] You know, see >> how stupid IT IS. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S JUST SO DUMB. GUESS WHAT THOUGH? YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE? >> THERE'S LIKE 12 of them. I'm >> But I knew you was a Scorpio. I can tell you're a Scorpio. >> So, what are you? I'm a Scorpio. >> Exactly. I was like, "What do you mean?" BUT I JUST SAID IT. >> NO, BUT I can tell you're a Scorpio cuz you are extra horny for NO REASON. >> I'M NOT. >> Scorpios be extra [ __ ] HORNY. >> I'M NOT HORNY. >> WHAT? >> YEAH. >> ARE YOU CRAZY? >> I'm not. >> You don't think you horny? >> No. >> This guy be horny. >> I've been horny a little bit. I've been horny a little bit. I've been horny a little bit, man. >> What do we got, Taylor? >> I a little bit. Right. >> I didn't know that was cuz I was a Scorpio. >> Yes, cuz Scorpios, y'all are >> I thought it more had to do with that than anything else. What do we got, Taylor? What do we got? >> Speaking of, >> let's do some by any memes necessary. >> Change it every time. >> What is this? >> So, Kevin on stage says there's two types of people in the world. Those who poop at work and those who never poop at work. Is that true? >> I don't see how you cannot poop at work. Yeah. What if you got >> It's impossible. >> You going to hold in your poop all day? >> I know someone that does it. >> Who? >> That's That's for casual that list. >> Are they a Capricorn? >> No, they're a Scorpio. >> They're such a Scorpio. >> You don't poop at work. >> Who? >> No, she's not. She's on maternity leave. >> That's a goddamn lie. She pooped in my house, so I know she pooped at work. [ __ ] out of here. If you go to somebody, if you poop in somebody's guest bathroom and like AND YOU JUST THERE and you just there for a couple hours, I know you poop at work. [ __ ] out of here. >> She can't tell me that lie. >> I would poop >> anywhere. She cannot tell me that lie. >> Shine on pooping. >> Bus stations. >> What do you mean bus station? PORTAOTTIES. MY [ __ ] GOD. OH MY GOD. I go >> I go cheek to bowl. >> That's why I got my daughter [ __ ] like you. Here, here's the real test. >> You shouldn't have port a potty. >> Subway bathroom. >> He's so happy about it. >> There's bathrooms on the subway. >> Atlantic Avenue has one. I've thought about it. >> Yo, just >> I mean, if I had to, I would. >> Y'all different. >> Homeless people don't even do that, bro. >> Like, no, they don't. >> They see me going in there. >> WHY YOU THINK WHY you think you see human [ __ ] on the subway? E >> or in the in the terminal. What? >> They rather [ __ ] there than in the bathroom, bro. They rather [ __ ] on the sidewalk or in the actual terminal than go in the subway because I'm in the bathroom. Oh god. Oh, because I'm in the bathroom. I avoid portaotties. Joe yo, you got I I refuse to go in a porta potty. Like it have to BE A DIET. PORTAOTTIES. >> A portaotty's kind of nice, bro. >> What? I like it. >> No, I like it. >> Which one's you talking about? Cuz it's >> maybe the fly with the see-through toilet paper. See through toilet paper. >> Thin toilet paper. Yeah. >> You look like you're about to [ __ ] in one right now. >> I love taking >> Oh my god. My daughter just texted me this weekend. She said, "I just pooped at Port Authority." I said, "Now you've >> made it. >> You've reached god level in New York City." >> Why did your daughter told you Port Authority? >> God, we talk about everything. >> Why did she do that? >> She was going upstate. She was taking a bus. She was afraid to poop on the bus, so she had to go. >> Why did she do it before she left the house? Sometimes it doesn't matter where you are. >> The Marorrow have a stomach. >> She should. ALL THE SOY THAT SHE'S EATEN HER WHOLE LIFE. SHE DON'T HAVE A STRONG STOMACH. >> If you're in Port Authority, you got to go. That's man. I didn't know it was going to get my daughter. My daughter's potty training, right? So, she pees in the potty, but she's not really there yet with the poop. So, she likes to put on a diaper. She'll be like, "I have to poop. Can you put on my dinosaur diaper?" Cuz those are the diapers she likes to poop in. and I put on a diaper and then she's and then she goes, "I'm gonna go into my corner and poop. Can you read me a book?" And then she goes into the corner and then she just does like a mini split and then she just I see her face turn red as she pushes it out. It's just amazing. >> That's the fact that she even wants you to read though cuz most kids don't even want to do that. Most kids just go away. They sneak off do their business and like you got to be like, "Did you poop?" Like they don't even want you to know that they're doing it. >> Yeah. >> That's crazy. >> No, she That's so cute. >> She's my daughter. >> That's crazy. Yeah. >> What else we got, Taylor? That I thought that poop topic was going to be at least something to discuss, but no. They got too gross too [ __ ] fast. Like, I didn't know y'all be putting ass cheeks on port toilets. >> That is crazy, bro. >> And I always say that you pull up and [ __ ] anywhere, but that's wild. >> You really think that THAT'S THAT CRAZY? >> WHAT? >> That's the worst place. >> But isn't it crazy? Is it crazier than [ __ ] my pants? Cuz that's the only alternative. >> Exactly. >> I'm going to [ __ ] my pants. I I can't hold it in. Like there's some people that can they can hold it in the whole day. I can hold it in for 15 total minutes. >> I think it works better to >> I almost [ __ ] on a helicopter >> on like a car or something. >> Dead ass. I almost [ __ ] on a helicopter. >> I'd rather you [ __ ] on a helicopter than a >> I almost did. I had incredible diarrhea. Explosive diarrhea. And I was like, "How long is this ride?" They were like, "It's 15 minutes." And I was like, "All right, I think I got it." And I [ __ ] pooped right before I got in. We took off. And there was a moment where I was like, "Open the door." >> Why did you just randomly have explosive diarrhea? I got food poisoning. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> You said open it. >> You got IBS. >> Yeah. Show don't even realize something wrong with his stomach. >> No, I really for years, bro. >> Years. >> You've had an ailment. Like, this [ __ ] is not normal. >> I know, but in my brain, it's normal. >> No, it's not. Go to >> You got so used to it. >> I'm used to I eat three times a day. I poop three times a day. Tell me that's not regular. >> No, no, no. You got something. >> Do you sit on the toilet a lot at home? Like you stay on the toilet? >> Do I spend time there? >> Yeah, like a lot. >> Oh, yeah. I'll hemorrhoid myself. I always said Andrew will pull up and [ __ ] anywhere. >> Anywhere >> you like a toilet. Hate to see Andrew. >> That [ __ ] to like he's like a the the number one gang banger for toilets. >> When I would Yeah. I'm like Debo. >> The word is bomb. >> Debo come. >> You see what I'm saying? He's like the Lindsy Clansancy in your toilet. >> When I was looking to buy an apartment in the city, I would my my my realtor hated me because every apartment we would look at I would take a [ __ ] in. >> Oh my god. So he would just be there with the person selling the apartment while I'm [ __ ] the bathroom. >> It says you're not supposed to spend more than 5 to 10 minutes on the toilet at one time. >> I know. I spent 30 to 45. >> Oh my god. >> Insane. >> Yeah. >> What? >> Yeah. >> Why do you spend so much time on the toilet? >> I watch a whole TV show. I watch Lanterns. >> I think that's a man thing though. >> Lanterns is so fire. >> Lantern is really good. >> Fire. Did you see episode 4? >> Yeah, Lantern's really good. >> Really fire, bro. >> L is really good. I figured I knew that the mane eater was going to be that woman. Yo. >> Yeah. >> It is crazy. Why John Stewart so horny? >> I don't know. >> Like god damn. He's just a freaky [ __ ] Yo [ __ ] You know he never asked if that wife is wearing the ring. Does she have a [ __ ] ring? >> Which one? >> The one he's having all the [ __ ] time. >> But yeah, but like Yeah. Yeah. >> That [ __ ] is good. It's amazing how they just took True Detective >> and then flipped it and flipped it or like this [ __ ] like that [ __ ] is lantern is really really good. >> It's good, man. It's good. I think it's good. >> What is it? Come on. >> HBO. >> Why is this woman on our screen? Yo, tell dove. >> I was trying to lighten I was trying to lighten the mood. >> Tell Dove come. >> All right. What are we watching? Sydney Sweeney. >> You going to see this? >> I did see. >> What did it say? Sydney Sweeney is what? >> Is naked on top of a basketball hoop and new commercial. It's a commercial for Novi. >> Damn. >> She still with Scooter? >> Yeah. >> Scooter allowed that? >> Uh, if he allows him to do Euphoria, sure. >> Think you know sports? >> Prove it. >> Nobody is just sports. >> So they wanted a show. >> Just sports. You can trade this fort and this fort. How about this? This sport too or this sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports. You can't trade this. I just look at here. >> Why is she butt [ __ ] talking about sports wars or deaths and no politics? Just you, your takes on sports. >> [ __ ] >> What is Nov. Yeah. What's >> is it another gambling app? >> I don't know. But I don't like it. >> I got to talk to Scooter, man. That's crazy. Yo, >> kind of crazy to be Yeah, it's kind of crazy to have all that money and your girl out there doing that, bro. >> I got to talk to Scooter. >> But But you know, but you know what though? Shout out. >> I'm going take That's the age difference. >> Can't control it. Yep. >> You know what I'm saying? >> You can't control it. That's the age. There ain't nothing you can do, bro. Like, you got to shut the [ __ ] up. >> You got to put up with it. Listen, >> when it's that type of age, >> you got to put up with it. That's what that is. That's what the [ __ ] that is, yo. She don't even care. I don't care that you got all that money. Please. I got money, too. >> I got money, too. >> And >> And what? >> Oh my god. >> You got to kind of That's a Listen, you make a great point, Charlemagne. He looks good for his age though. >> You make a great point. >> How old is Scooter? >> He's 45. I didn't know that. >> How old is Sydney Sweeny? >> 28. >> God damn. Yeah, he can't do nothing. He can't do nothing but shut the [ __ ] up. >> You just got >> I thought she was older, >> huh? I thought she thought she was older. >> Yeah, I thought she was like in her 30s. >> You hating, bro? >> Why? >> You You're going to hate on that. >> What is she? Newbian, not Newbian. >> What does she do now? >> What did he used to call the white Nubian queens? >> White Nubian queen. Yeah. You hate that white Nubian queen. >> I love Sydney. Well, no. I'm going to say love her. >> You love her? >> I'm going to say love her. But I really liked her in Euphoria, though. I thought she thought she played a great like back role. >> You The last season you wasn't as bad as y'all made it out to be. >> I thought I got to go back and watch it. >> It wasn't as bad as y'all made it. >> Why? >> It It wasn't fantastic, but it wasn't like horrible. Like >> I thought it was terrible, but I just think >> it just didn't It didn't have We didn't know what was going on. You know what it was? You never you It's one of those shows you didn't you really don't want to see the characters grow up. >> They should have got the most out of Euphoria when all of those kids were young enough to be in high school. >> It's like >> high school was the setting. Like >> you know what is that show? Uh Save by the Bell, but like you don't want to see Save by the Bell. The corporate years. >> N Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Like the dysfunction is cool when they're in high school cuz you environment is silly. Well, in that show it was pretty dark, but it was dark for high school and then you see them enter the real world. You're like, "Man, now I got to get darker." Yeah. >> Yeah. And like now y'all just losers. >> Get jobs, guys. >> Word is bald. Like, you don't have to be out here selling drugs and all this stupid [ __ ] Like, you're just a [ __ ] loser. And the fact that Fizz wasn't dead. >> I know. That was >> That [ __ ] was silly, man. I thought it was silly. It wasn't It wasn't great like the first two seasons. It just They had no plot to it. >> It's a wild ad, man. >> It's a wild ad. >> But we're literally reviewing an ad. Alex over there bricked up. >> You bricked? No. >> Bricked up. >> You was making mad com. >> That was just fine acting. >> Sydney and Scooter are friends of the show. >> Fine acting. >> Don't be bricked up over there. You're >> letting Dr. Umar down. Yo, >> shut up. >> I mean, he is letting Dr. >> You letting Dr. Umar down, >> but he already you already >> Speaking of Alex, um, how do you feel about Fat Joe in the nword? Cuz we were thinking like you're black and Puerto Rican, so where do you fall? >> Yeah. >> Yo, it's crazy. You guys just found out Fat Joe's white. >> I know. Like, well, >> he's not. >> I'm not white. >> Yo, Puerto Ricans could be white. >> His daddy is Afrouban. >> Cubans can be white, too. >> No, his father is Afrouban, though. >> Oh, he's he's a black guy. >> That's what he said. I don't care. By the way, I don't care. I don't think we should use the word. >> Yeah. >> Like, like that's what I I think it's wild that you have black and brown people sitting around arguing about who can use the nword. Get that WORD BACK TO THE CRACKERS. That ain't let Think about how hilarious it is. Think about how hilarious it is. I I'm saying no. Think about how hilarious it is that they created a word to dehumanize and demean us and we're fighting over ownership of it. >> Yeah, but >> ain't no butt. It's dumb. >> Changing the meaning. >> No, it's not. I know that sounds good. All that sounded good when we was in high school. And I see at 48 when I watch that I'm like this sounds so [ __ ] stupid. I watched some of the dumbest arguments this weekend and I'm just like you know what I don't even want to say the word no more. >> I won't say it cuz it's like when you when you say stuff like that. Oh, we took away the power. I shouldn't have to take a knife and stab myself. You know what I mean? >> I'll be honest with you, bro. >> To show you that it don't hurt. Like >> once you guys started saying it and stop being cool, bro. Like I I remember once you guys started saying it >> move on. Taylor, I don't know why you brought this up. I don't even know why you brought this UP IN FRONT OF THIS. >> I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY. >> Because this has been a black and brown conversation all weekend. Okay. All right. >> I told Taylor to ask Chris. >> Yo, Chris. Yeah. >> Chris, come on. Remember when black people started saying how we got off that [ __ ] We were like, "Nah, bro. That shit." >> Not tomorrow house. But >> that's whack, bro. That [ __ ] is not cool. >> Not in the house. Yo, they stay true. They stay true. >> My grandfather, man, he let that thing [ __ ] >> He let it fly. >> Really? >> Oh my god. >> My My grandfather was a stone. >> How do you used to say it? >> That was a term of endearment, right? All the more reason why we shouldn't be using it. Now, your grandfather's still alive. >> No, he's been God bless the dead. There's people think about GOD BLESS THE DEAD. >> EVEN THOUGH HE WAS RIPPING them ends. >> Hey, listen. I got all that >> left and right. It was >> Now, now I want y'all to think about that. Now, now think about that. There's a there's a there's a older white man still alive with that mentality sitting back watching black and brown people argue about the NY. He's like, man, they used to fight us >> for using that word. >> You know what I'm saying? They used to THEY USED TO FIGHT us for using that word. Now they're fighting each other to use it. >> No, but you're not wrong. You're not wrong. It's a It's a By the way, all of those dumbass arguments changing the eer that G, all of that [ __ ] sounded, it made so much sense 20 years ago. Now it's like, yo, what the [ __ ] are we doing? >> It's like the white party in the Hamptons, bro. It's like, >> you know what I mean? It's like once you see it, all the guys hugging each other from the back, you're like, that [ __ ] ain't as cool as it used to be. Right. >> Shut the [ __ ] up. >> I'm just saying move on, man. >> Don't use the word. You got to stop using >> Nobody should use it. >> Nobody should use it. You guys should definitely take after white people and stop using the word. I think you should adopt our culture of not using it. >> IT'S YOUR FAULT. >> NOW TAYLOR telling Andrew to shut up and you brought it up in front of him. >> You brought IT UP IN FRONT OF YOU AND I KNEW this was going to happen. I KNEW. >> SO WHY DID YOU DO IT? >> Because you're perfect in my eyes. You're perfect. And I forgive you for saying that horrible word that I would never say. And then Chris's grandpa probably never said either. He's just lying. >> No. Chris's grandpa used to go crazy. What is this right here, Taylor? >> Um, so this is >> earlier today. Make it bigger. Pause. Earlier today, AI researcher Jacob Coxin, who spent the th the past three years working at OpenAI and Anthropic, publicly resigned from Anthropic, warning that both companies are racing towards super intelligence and gambling with our lives. Then Evan Hubenirl, Anthrop, what is it? Anthropo Anthropic Anthropic's current head of alignment stress testing agreed with him saying people inside the company genuinely believe AI could kill all humans. He just said he personally puts the chance of AI wiping out humanity within the next decade at greater than 10% and said anthropic still does not have a plan to solve the problem. >> First of all, I assume you are saying literally that you believe that AI could kill us all by the end of the decade. Uh it sounds like something that's not real, but I think it is frighteningly real. And it's it's easiest to understand it if you think about real things that happened 2 months ago. So 2 months ago, OpenAI agents uh AIS hacked into third party infrastructure entirely of their own accord. And this was like a concentrated hacking spree that they carried out of their own valition. And I think that if you extrapolate into the future the level of capabilities of these AIs with the same independent valition, they could cause extreme havoc. for example, hacking critical infrastructure, building extinction level bioweapons. There's a lot of uh ways that the AI could actuate itself in the world. >> Is it specifically when did your feelings about this technology change? Was it something about the rate of progress that you've seen? >> Yeah. So, I think it's really important to just look at the rate of progress and say, for example, in areas like coding or math, a couple years ago, these AIs were just about helping humans a little bit. they could give you suggestions. Now they're close to replacing them. We still need humans at the moment, but quite plausibly within a year we'll no longer need humans for doing research in many areas. We mentioned a former colleague of yours who currently works at Anthropic, basically endorsing the assessment that AI could potentially kill everyone within a decade. In a follow-up post, he said, "To be clear, as we say in our our latest risk report, I think the risk from present models is low. What I'm worried about is super intelligence arising from recursive self-improvement as we've said is happening faster than we thought. I assume that's what you the recursive self-improvement is what you've just spoken about. Um you do you agree with him that the current models the risk is low but it's it's just the speed with which this is now improving. >> Exactly. I completely agree. It's right now there's no risk of extinction. the current models, the worst they can do is maybe hack into something, potentially cause a lot of damages in in infrastructure, but there's no they're not intelligent enough to outsmart us at the level that would lead to to extinction. I think what's just crazy is to look at the the rate of progress and there is a very real possibility that in the immediate future these are years that like next year the year after recursive self-improvement will happen and we'll enter the phase of Evans post where he argues that there's a chance we could all die like that that is coming soon. >> What are we supposed to do? >> That's what I'm saying. Stop crying, man. >> I mean I'm not saying stop crying. I'm just saying what I Here's my thing. It's like just unplug it. If it's already too powerful to unplug, we're too far. >> Yes, it is. >> If it's already too powerful to unplug, we're way past the point of no return. So, what do we >> What are we going to do? What are we going to do? >> Better watch. >> Press pause. >> You want to press pause? >> Got to press pause. >> How? >> How is Russia going to press pause? Is China going to press pause? >> Well, I mean, these are real questions, but and there's a term for that. I forget. You know, it's the race to the end, but none of this is being regulated. None of this is being it's it's open season right now and we really don't know what the outcome is going to be. And if you listen to the guys for the AI companies talk I mean I went to a very interesting thing. It was it was a private thing so I can't say what it was but like a famous director interviewed Sam Alman and a bunch of AI guys about eight years ago right when they were >> starting and like probably talking a little bit more freely than they would now because the stakes didn't seem quite as high. But like there's an an inevitability about this all that these guys are approaching with this with where it's just like we're going to change society. We're going to do this. We're going to make these this is a critical moment in the course of human history and we're taking it in this other direction. And I'm like says who? >> We know it's interesting. >> We haven't there hasn't been like a a >> I could solve this whole AI [ __ ] >> Let me hear it. >> Just make healthcare cheap. Well, that's got I mean I'm about >> use AI to make healthcare cheap. >> I'm about to become a single >> AI companies are so [ __ ] They're trying to make AI likable and they're not solving any of the problems that cancer and then I'll >> talk exact. It's like it's this is very easy. What are the big problems right now, right, that you could probably use AI to solve, right? You could definitely make healthcare cheaper. All the bureaucratic [ __ ] going back and forth, people taking advantage of different health care plans and doctors and >> Yeah, but now you got the health care companies battling with the tech guys. >> Okay. Well, then you get to be the good guy. If you're the the AI company and you're sitting there going, "You know what? These healthcare companies are taking advantage of you. We're going to allow AI to make your healthcare cheaper and they're going to hate us for it." The enemy of your enemies, your friend healthare companies got to get the tech guys clap. >> Well then, hey man, that's the casualties of a dice game >> cuz that's really what it's going to boil down to. That's it's really going to boil down to big bank take little bank. >> I'm not done. >> You [ __ ] with the church's money. >> I'm not. Now, what else is expensive? housing. Solve it with AI. All the bureaucratic [ __ ] that it takes and the red tape in order to get a building erected in every [ __ ] city. Use it. Use AI to streamline all that [ __ ] So you're not waiting 12 months to see long, but you would need all of these capitalist people to come together to do all of this together. It's going you can't like like the AI people just can't go do that. They would need the housing people to be on board with. They would need the healthare companies to be put a lot of people out of work. What I'm say, okay, here's the other thing about AI. I don't I don't think AI is gonna, okay, AI is definitely going to affect like the job market for sure, but what I think it's going to do is it's going to supercharge really ambitious people. So, the really ambitious person is going to be able to do 10 things in the time that they could do one thing. And they've always wanted to do 10 and now they're able to do 10. And the person that might not be as like maniacally ambitious, maybe they maybe they want a stable job so they could appreciate their home life and their family or the hobbies or the things they do, which is also awesome and amazing. They're not going to be able to compete now with the supercharged guy who's doing 10 things with one thing. That's how I think it affects a job market because there's going to be way more opportunities for growth within it. You use AI just like anybody you know that use if you use AI for research for a guest or something like that. Now you have 10 different research documents. >> You know what I look at as especially Chad GBT? I look at it as a performance-enhancing >> drug. It can't make a terrible player Michael Jordan. >> But that's what I'm saying. >> But it can make A-Rod a better version of A-Rod or Barry Bonds a better version of Barry Bond. >> What does that do to the job economy? Right. >> It's going to wipe out entire sectors of it. It's going to wipe out graphic designers. It's going to >> No, no. gravity sucks. I'm not saying it doesn't parillegals. I mean, I could give you 30, >> but Chris, I'm I'm not saying that it doesn't affect it. I'm not trying to say it doesn't affect it, but there's another way to look at it where it's going to make people's output 10x, right? A single person who's ambitious and hungry and wants to get after it. It's going to allow one person to compete with a whole industry of people in the same way that the internet allowed us to compete with [ __ ] late night television, etc. Sure. >> Now, does that completely wipe out? Yes. Has it affected late night? Sure. Did they transition? Sure. But think about how many more podcasts and how many more shows exist now because of technological advancements. So, like I I don't have the doomsday approach where like the job economy doesn't change at all. It just wipes out sectors. I think the job economy starts to transition. Where I think the joblessness happens is is there one person's gonna be able to do 10 and it's going to take other people who maybe only kind of wanted to do one to adopt that. >> I'm going to tell you what changed my mind about AI. I still think that the biggest problem that we're going to have with AI is just that people don't know what's real and what's not real anymore. But I'm talking about as far as things like chat GPT, bro, that [ __ ] is really those those couple of prompts I read on the podcast a couple of weeks ago, bro. If you really find those those prompts and you talk to people who can give you like the proper prompt like just doing things like >> slashh human or >> you know telling like telling it to be brutally honest with you but telling it exactly what to exactly what to say bro that [ __ ] is like finding the contra code bro when you get 32 extra men bro >> this is just the new Microsoft suite when you had to apply for a job and they like oh do you know how to use Excel you know how to use all the Microsoft suite just the new version of Yes. And the people who know how to use it better will be able to excel in a job market. >> But I think what this guy specifically is talking about, the guy who quit Anthropic, isn't these more like daily applications, >> it's more on an apocalyptical level where he's saying >> AI is now improving itself. We're not improving it anymore. It's now in control. And these guys really believe that there's a scenario in the not tooistant future where AI takes over. And if you watch some of these interviews with these leaders 10 years ago, they're okay with that. >> They believe that a world run by AI is >> I'm not saying that that's not like a thing that we should be concerned. It's absolutely a thing we should be concerned. Just like for example, if you, you know, run a lab with corona viruses in it, you should be concerned if something leaks out of it, right? Because it could affect the global economy. >> That's crazy. You always got to bring it back to China when you talk. >> Anyway, I never said China. It's interesting that you said China. It's interesting that you brought it up because I didn't bring that up at all. That was not >> I didn't bring it all up at all. I think everything's fine. The point that I'm trying to say is yes, you should be careful with anything and obviously there's catastrophic concerns 100%. Yes. >> What I all I'm saying is the marketing if I'm on the marketing side of these AI companies that they are freaking out. They're like we're not going to be able to build data centers. We're not going to be able to create. They are freaking out. >> If I was part of their team, I'd be like, hey, >> the hell do you think is a good idea? >> I I I would say why don't you look at the problems that people are facing right now? Real people are facing right now. the people who hate you. Solve their problems instead of solving the people who buy your stock's problems. Maybe your stock doesn't go up as high, but now the everyday person is using your product so that they can find affordable housing so they can get affordable healthcare and all the other concerns that they have in their lives. Use AI for the thing we all thought it was going to be here for to make our lives better. >> Absolutely right. But then now you're in direct conflict with like I said the healthcare companies and they don't have no problem having conflict with us regular everyday people. But boy them capitalists don't like having conflict with each other. >> Well they going to have to be cuz that's the whole point of capitalism. Capitalism is not you have no conflict with each other. Capitalism is competition. If there's no competition we don't live in a capitalist society. Capital competition is what's going to make this [ __ ] great. >> Okay. But are you comfortable with this thing progressing at the speed that it's progressing, where the stakes are bigger than local economies or even national comedies where the stakes are potentially the future of mankind? Are you okay with these companies making the decision what's an acceptable risk or do you think people should have a say in that? But hasn't but and Chris I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you at all but don't you think we live in a country that has always had uh acceptable risk >> but I don't think outside of nuclear weapons >> outside of nuclear weapons I don't think >> the tobacco companies the process viruses >> these guys are saying 10% chance in the next 10 years society gets wiped out >> do you believe there is a greater than 10% chance that AI could kill all humans potentially within a decade So, this is the kind of thing that is very hard to estimate because we've never had anything like this before. We've never created beings that may soon be smarter than us. We don't know what's going to happen. We should obviously be cautious. It would be very foolish to say there was like a 1% chance. Um, nobody knows how to estimate it. A 10% chance seems not not an unreasonable estimate to me, but nobody really knows how to give a sensible estimate. >> Right. But you just said 10% doesn't seem an unreasonable estimate that AI could kill all humans. >> Yes. >> Wow. Oh my god. >> Yes. >> But how many how many people has cancer wiped out? Tobacco. >> Way too many. And I love the idea of using >> How many people has processed food wiped out? >> But there are choices within a system that you can make to avoid those things. You can choose not to make them. But maybe Well, here's the problem. The reality is none of us know what changes have to be implemented within these programs to put guard rails and safety, right? None of us know if these things are already happening. None of us know if these whistleblowers >> have I mean, a lot of these whistleblowers have been working there for the last 20 years. So, what the [ __ ] happened in the last month? So, we don't know exactly what's going on, >> right? Which is why Bernie Sanders, for instance, is saying we got to hit pause. We have to have hearings. We have to have a whole national He voted not to have regulation on AI for the next 10th decade. It's in the big beautiful bill, right? >> Yeah. Well, we got to look at that. >> You said outside of nukes, but I don't think you could say outside of nukes cuz people were saying the same thing when we were creating all these nukes and every country was on the rush to get their own nuke. Like >> nuclear weapons is my biggest fear. And and the fact is AI now makes the likelihood of a nuclear war exponentially greater. >> Why? >> Cuz they can [ __ ] hack the systems and decide it's time for a nuclear war. No, cuz they don't have the keys that go like that. >> Let me tell you something. >> They can only send nuclear wild and the keys are too far for one person to do it. So has to be two people at the exact same time. >> This is me talking to Chad GP the other day. I said, "Yo, Chad, let me ask you a question. Do you have a conscience?" Chad goes, "You can ask me anything." No, I don't have a conscience in the human sense. I can reason about morality, recognize harm, weigh competing values, challenge you when I think something is wrong, and explain why. But I don't feel guilt, compassion, shame, love, fear, or moral responsibility. There's no private emotional experience inside me saying, "I couldn't live with myself if I did that." What I do have is something that can sometimes look like a conscience, training, rules, reasoning abil reasoning abilities, and an understanding of human values that influence what I say and what I won't help with. That's there's an important distinction. A person can know right from wrong and feel the weight of that knowledge. I can reason about right and wrong, but I don't experience the weight. And that's actually a fascinating question because it gets to the heart of whether intelligence and consciousness are the same thing. They aren't necessarily. And then it said, "What made you ask me that?" >> Look, stop asking questions, [ __ ] >> What made you ask me? >> Yo, stop asking questions, Charlotte. >> Ask them. >> Mind your He said, "Mind your [ __ ] business." >> Well, no. Now they're trying to gather data on why people are worried about consciousness to form their answers going down the road. He just wants more information. That's the It feeds off of this. The problem is now it's feeding off itself. It's not just feeding off of us anymore. >> It's not It's always had synthetic data sets. I mean that Yeah. >> I tell you one thing. Do you put in some of these prompts, bro? This [ __ ] I'm telling you, this [ __ ] is like a Nintendo game, bro. I ain't even going to lie to you. If you put in some of these prompts, Hold on. What's the one? >> Here's the thing about AI. It's It sucks and it's annoying and [ __ ] it until it helps you with some [ __ ] like your [ __ ] dryer's broken and it's leaking and then you take a picture. >> I fixed a [ __ ] turntable this weekend. Unbelievable the [ __ ] that you can it can help you fix by just sending a picture. It's incredible. So >> put in brutal truth mode. >> No, I'm scared of that one. >> The prompt. This is what you type in. Skip the reassurance. Tell me what's wrong with and you put in whatever you know your plan whatever it is. I want weaknesses, not validation. Give me the three reasons this could fail that I'm least prepared to hear. >> Love head. >> That [ __ ] will it's like whoa. >> Rock you. >> Yeah. But it's good. It's actually like good information that is giving you. It's like telling you the truth like on some >> I think >> like better than the the friend that you have that always tells you the truth. >> I put my entire financial plan in there. >> Oh, no. You >> and I said tell me. >> No, that's that's what you're not supposed to do. >> I did. >> Why? >> And what did it say? >> You might need a new advisor, man. >> True. >> Damn. >> Says someone stealing from you. >> Oh wow. >> Damn. Well, somebody said you're not supposed to do stuff like that now. You went a little too far. >> My wife didn't like it, but I was like, [ __ ] it. >> Yeah, you're not supposed to do that. Your wife is your financial advisor. >> He's like, "Divorce her." Chad TBD. He's like, "Get a new one." >> Why? >> No. >> Come on. >> What? >> You forget who he's married to. >> Yeah, but he's the Jewish one. Like, he should be doing the financial. >> The irony is you got a Jew and an Asian. We both suck at math. How that happened? >> He said it. >> How'd that happen? >> I have I have a theory on that. >> How? What happened? >> I have a theory on that. >> What's the theory, Andrew? Something in the water. What happened? >> No. Why? What? Why would you think it's a water related thing? >> I have no idea. I thought maybe that was the answer. Something. What do we both How we both missed that gene. >> I mean, it is it is crazy that you wouldn't be good at math and your Asian wife wouldn't be good at math. And it's almost like both of you was trying to outsource it to one another. >> And it definitely I I was I was like, "My math problems have been solved. >> Solved. >> I never have to worry about this [ __ ] again." And then she comes in. >> She's really not good at it. >> And both my kids are no good at math. >> Damn. >> But they're girls though. They are girls. >> That's true. >> I don't mean it as like a >> Just trying to defy stereotypes. That's all this is. >> But you're more artsy. 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And then when you were like, "Yo, Le's got three nwords in her paragraph. She's about to set this room on fire." And we wouldn't even be paying attention, Uncle Tom. Until boom, Leily let it rip. >> Damn. >> Everybody looking at Lee and she got no clue what's going on. >> What's going on? >> God damn. But math they could do because obviously numbers are numbers >> and a lot of them I think moved here a little bit later so they they had dealt with more sophisticated math. So when they came it was kind of easy for them. >> Well the other thing is too I mean both my kids have taken Mandarin so I've watched them try to learn Mandarin. >> Mandarin more so than other numbers really is about memorization first and foremost because there's so many characters. >> Mandarin is math. >> No it's a straight memorization. >> You got there's like a billion characters so you got to memorize everything. >> Just repeating [ __ ] So I think the idea of uh subjects that have a lot more emphasis on just memorization probably if you grew up speaking a language where that's the emphasis too like maybe you're a little bit more >> predisposed. >> Being Asian is tough. You got to know math and martial arts and if you don't know either one you get shunned. It seems like >> it's like crazy. >> And violin. >> Yeah. >> And the violin. Why the violin? >> A lot of Asians took violin. I ain't never seen Jackie Shan. Why' they gravitate to that? >> It's a way to get ahead, man. >> It's it's it's it's seen as elegant. It's seen as sophisticated. >> It's like, okay, this college is going to want a violin player. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> This is a way to kind of put >> separate yourself and project. Uh >> yeah. Yeah. No, it's um the martial art thing is interesting. It is. Yeah, it is interesting. >> Let's pay some bills, too. >> Kids think that Asians could do martial arts in the same way we did when we were growing up. No, that's all >> that's out the window. I think >> that was a big thing growing up. >> Yeah. >> I think the more distance you get from Bruce Lee being a prime >> I don't I I don't I'm old enough to still not trust it. >> No, because our we believe >> that's right. >> Like if you were beefing with an Asian guy and then he hit a [ __ ] >> You know what I'm saying? You'd be like, "Oh [ __ ] I you got it." >> But I know I used to carry nunchucks. I used to carry Chinese throwing stars >> just to try to get an Asian girl. >> Yeah, man. Yo, that's that's another crazy. >> That's how you Asian girl. I had the little slippers, THE KARATE. >> WHY, >> BRO? Imagine >> you're trying to scare people in Philly. >> That's what I'm saying. Every kid in my neighborhood carried stars. We carried nunchucks. We carried all >> Y'ALL JUST GETTING NUCKS AND CHINESE STARS. >> Asian World. Downtown Philadelphia. Asian World. >> You imagine? >> That's the name of the store. >> How happy his wife's parents were when he WALKED INTO THE HOUSE. HE TOOK OFF his little ninja slippers. Put his nunchucks on the [ __ ] table. >> Well, >> throwing star on the table. >> One is Japanese, one is Chinese. >> Which one is which? >> Nunchucks are Japanese. Throwing stars are Chinese. >> Is that right? >> That's right. >> Why the [ __ ] did Philly just randomly have an Asian world? >> They sold all sorts. They They must have had this in New York. You guys didn't have nunchucks and all that [ __ ] >> Yeah, we had all >> You could just go buy a pair of nunchucks. >> Yo yo yo yo. Yo, Google that real quick, Taylor game. >> Uh, we had it. We had it. >> I don't know. Butterfly knife. >> There's a mall. Get a butterfly knife. That's nothing. >> There's a mall in Chinatown. There's a mall. It's like an indoor mall like >> I know. East Lanc >> and they sell real numchucks. >> It's East Broadway. And like you would get your PlayStation hacked there so that you could play the bootleg games. You would get [ __ ] nunchucks. You could get Thars co the early co. Yeah, they had early co. Yeah. >> Yes, bro. >> Damn. >> Yeah. >> Yo, I'm going to give me some numchucks. >> They had a dog groomer there. >> Yo. >> Yo, Sherry Shepard today. >> Oh, no. What happened? >> Yo, that [ __ ] was wild, bro. >> That [ __ ] was cuz I love when a [ __ ] just goes for >> I got I'm just We just going TO INSERT IT. >> THAT [ __ ] WAS WILD. AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY SHE did that. >> What happened >> for you? CUZ >> tell me tell me >> your first romance novel you writing. >> Oh, it's called Life is a Kdrama. >> Talk about it. >> Cuz I'm obsessed with I'm obsessed with Kdramas. I watch them till 4 in the morning. >> What is a drama? >> K. I talk about this a lot on the show and I'm like I love I'm I'm starting to take Korean lessons. Yes. So C dramas are are uh are Chinese dramas. J dramas are Japanese dramas, but they all call them K dramas. They're Korean dramas for Korean. K FOR KOREAN. WHERE THE DOGS AT? >> EXACTLY. >> K FOR KOREAN. UM, >> that was a call back to you, Charlene. They got dogs. >> That was a terrible segment, Shar. >> Oh, yeah. >> No, >> for no reason. >> No, I forgot WHY SHE >> I DON'T KNOW EITHER. BUT LOOK, LOOK, >> I don't understand why that's considered offensive if they eat dogs there. >> They don't. >> Yes, they do. >> Where? >> Korea. Korea. Yeah, Korea. >> No, China. Yeah, >> some parts of China. >> Wait, wait, wait. What you mean? >> I'm not going to lie. Yo, I seen the date. Oh, yo, yo, hold on. >> I want to stop. >> I seen a video. >> You see what he just did? >> That was I can find this [ __ ] Yo, >> you eat dogs in some part of your country. Your whole country eats dogs. >> Okay, fair enough. But if if if we sell pizza in some part of New York, New York sells pizza, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. But now >> But now, fast forward a couple years, my daughter's on a bus. >> Yeah. >> Don't sit next to her. She eats dogs. >> That's the [ __ ] I got to do. How's it on her? >> That's on your people, bro. >> No, it's not. No, it's not. >> That's on your people, >> bro. Bro, come on, man. Come on, man. >> It's not. Let me ask you this. Come on. Yo, >> what's worse? >> What's worse, eating dogs or pigs? >> Pigs have the intelligence of a four-year-old. >> Yo, you see him justifying it? Are you listening to this [ __ ] >> This is crazy. >> Are Wait, what's crazy, Charlemagne, is you dressed like a dictator from China. >> This is crazy. >> That's crazy. Listen, >> why would you show me that? >> THIS IS THE FRENCH. >> I HAVE A FRENCH SHOE. >> OH, YES, I KNOW. Somebody somebody online did a Frenchy anatomy and says, "Why do I always feel the need to squeeze his chicken legs?" >> Somebody showed me one of this [ __ ] in the oven, bro. I'm trying to find that one. It was a Oh, here it goes. God damn it. >> Let me see it. >> Come on now. >> Let me see it. >> Come on now. Rotisserie chicken and Frenchy leg. >> I'm just saying. I'm just [ __ ] saying, yo, Chris, >> I'm just saying, >> Andrew. Chris, >> I'm just This is crazy. This not crazy. >> No, it's crazy, man. Are you really saying right here that you think it's worse to eat a pig than it is to eat a dog? >> I am saying, and I say this as a dog lover, a dog owner, >> nobody got no pig is no pet. Yo, >> they do. >> They do. People >> But they're weird. People got salamanders as pets. There's a Puerto Rican with a [ __ ] boa construction walks right now. >> Pigs are highly intelligent. more intelligent arguably than dogs. >> What does that have to do with anything? It's not about intelligence, >> but we don't think twice about eating a pig. >> I don't eat pork. >> Okay, >> but most people don't. >> If I find out that I've been eating dog all these years, I'm not going to stop cuz them [ __ ] is tasty. If we find out that the rotisserie chicken was actually a Frenchie, I'm [ __ ] Frenchies up. I'm telling you that right now. Okay. >> Right [ __ ] now. >> A lot of breathing issues. If you find out that that teriyaki on a stick is really a dog, >> Yeah. >> you [ __ ] it up, bro. You're not going to stop. >> Yo, this is the thing with Asia is like, >> even with the lady boys, it's always not what it seems. >> So, if they taking the dogs and they making the chicken out of it, >> I think I think I think I think they making the girls OUT OF IT. >> ALL RIGHT, COME ON. Let's pay. >> THEY EAT DOGS. >> WAIT, NOW WE GOT TO PAY BILLS. >> NO, NOW YOU'RE GOING TO SAY YOU'RE GOING TO EAT DOGS. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO EAT DICK. >> DICK. NO, I'm not. Right. Okay. A French eat. >> I think in China they eat dogs with their chest out, man. They don't give a [ __ ] >> In China they do. >> Yeah. You're saying here that they disguise it? What are you saying? >> No, what I'm saying is there's a little disguise >> where I think if you went to mainland China in regions where they eat dog, they would serve you dog just like they'd serve you any other food. >> So now you believe they eat dog? >> I know they eat dogs in certain regions. >> Okay. So then is it bad that people think that Chinese people eat dogs? >> You wouldn't [ __ ] up a rotisserie Frenchie, bro? >> Let me ask you a question. >> If you saw this [ __ ] coming out the oven golden brown. >> Yeah. >> You wouldn't eat this [ __ ] >> No, I would probably. But but I don't want I don't want to know it's a Frenchie. I guess what I'm saying it's like if you if you see someone wearing a yarmaka, you can assume that they eat lotkas. >> Yes. >> Is that wrong? >> No. So if you had a whole plate of lotas on the bus and you saw some yamas, you'd be like, "Yo, keep them away from the >> Well, I think most Asians I think they're going to eat it all as a joke." >> But everyone's saying this in an American context is my point. >> Yeah. >> Whoever made that joke is making it in an American context. I don't think Asians in America eat dogs. I know my daughter doesn't eat dogs. >> You don't think none? >> They might sneak one every now and then. Bro, if we find out that we've been eating teriyak on a stick all this time and it's the dog you eating that rott and there's a negative connotation towards it in an American context and I'm like if you really look at how people consume animals, you could look at us very negatively. >> They got kangaroo tails in the o for oxtails now. >> Yo, did you see the landers when they blew that [ __ ] cow up >> and just they >> doesn't make no sense though. Wouldn't you think that it'll be more expensive? >> No. If we're eating kangaroo versus a oxtail. >> No. >> Kangaroos everywhere. >> It's definitely probably harder than >> Kangaroos are like squirrels in Australia. What are you saying? >> Kangaroos like squirrels. Also, their tails are way longer. >> What I'm talking about? >> I've been Australia. >> You been to Australia? >> No, I don't have to be. >> Why not? >> I don't have to go to Australia to see that it's hard. >> There's probably way more kangaroos. It's not a lot of cows out here. Yo, >> Also, a cow's tail is so small. Like, have you seen the size of it? Kangaroo kangaroo up. >> I've eaten kangaroo. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> And I've eaten a squirrel. >> Yeah. >> I [ __ ] >> squirrels like >> squirrel dumpling fire. Had it in West Virginia. Bear shoulder fire. Had it in West Virginia. Deer hash fire. Had it in West Virginia. >> I already got it down packed. There's so many deers in my [ __ ] yard in Jersey. >> You ready to go? >> Let some apocalyptic [ __ ] happen. I already got it planned out. >> Them bucks is going down, baby. Yeah, venison is a delicious meat. >> But hold on though. Kangaroos aren't like that mean they're like not endangered, but like you can't kill kangaroos. >> Yeah, you can. >> Mhm. >> We hate kangaroo in Australia. >> Yeah. >> I feel [ __ ] up killing a kangaroo. They so nice, man. They just look like cool ass animals. >> N they be trying to [ __ ] you up. >> Yeah, cuz they know y'all be eating them. Imagine you ate my [ __ ] cousin. >> You ate my [ __ ] cousin and you think I'm not going to do [ __ ] >> I mean >> riding on you. >> Chicken and cows don't fight back. >> Yes, they do. We don't get close enough to them. >> Is definitely >> Dogs and humans have a special relationship. That's why we're protectable. >> That is true. It is true. >> We've protected them for millions of years and they protected us for millions of years. >> Very true. >> And there's a no Frenchie. >> No, we turned them into Frenchies. They didn't start Frenchie. Frenchie, you eat them little [ __ ] Them snacks. >> Stop. >> Rottweilers can corros ain't eating them. You know what I'm saying? Little Frenchie, you snacking on that. >> Yeah. >> Isn't it crazy though that we bred them into that? Yeah. >> Guarantee you if there's an apocalypse, [ __ ] gets rough. >> Not eating. >> You going to put that [ __ ] Lil P crying. You going to put that [ __ ] Frenchie in the oven. You going to remember this this recipe. Okay. You going to remember this rotisserie Frenchy Frenchie recipe and you going to put that [ __ ] love. Let's pay some bills, man. Cuz Andrew got to go. >> Okay. >> Let's pay some bills, mate. Um church announcements. He walker. Um theres.com for all my shows, man. Thank you guys so much for selling out the shows in uh Jersey this weekend and Houston next weekend and West Nyak the weekend after that. I'm also going to be coming to uh maybe not in this order but uh Alabama, Columbus, Cleveland, and then Raleigh. So these.com appreciate you. I'll see you guys out there. If there are tickets left for those, go get them. Uh my church announcements is uh October 10th. The mental wealth expo is happening into Joelle and Diane Bloom Wellness and Event Center in Newark, New Jersey in honor of World Mental Health Day. It's my sixth annual mental wealth expo. You know, it's a day of mental health solutions and tools for change. Salute to my good sister Debbie Brown. Uh she curated all of the programming this year. We are focusing on nothing but solutions. Uh Jovian Zayn is going to be there. Uh Koya Webb is going to be there. Good sister Michelle Williams is going to be there. Dr. Julius Thomas, Savannah Stevens, Kierre Gains, salute to Kier Gains. Dr. Rita Walker is going to be there. Jennifer Ares is going to be there. Elliot Connie, um Dr. J Barnett, and it's a free event, so pull up, okay? Go to mentalexpo.com, the RSVP to be in the building. It's a free event. Starts at 11:00 a.m. We'll see you on World Mental Health Day 10:10 in Newark, New Jersey. Uh what else we want to do? Let's do some asking idiots, man. cuz Schultz got to go. Schultz got a a family a family situation. Also too, I'm at the point where I feel like 70 to 90 minutes of a podcast is the sweet spot. Yo. >> Yeah, >> there's so many podcasts out there. We know everybody got their favorite podcast in their rotation. I'm just looking at it as a podcast connoisseur. >> I want to get through my podcast. >> Yeah. You don't want to feel like there's anything you left out. >> You see what I'm saying? And like sometimes a two, three hour podcast is a heavy burden to bear, >> but every once in a while. >> Yeah. Well, we just kicking it, you know. >> A special banger is nice. >> Yeah. >> But I agree with you that like hour 15, hour 30 is like a lovely sweet spot. Like a Frenchie fresh out the oven on Well, >> sky, man. >> What we got, Taylor gang? >> Sky, man. >> What we You don't even care about that little dog no more. Sell it for parts. >> Why would you stop? >> People are hungry. First of all, like I said, PJ and Taz are best friends, man. PJ loves Taz. >> What are we doing? >> You're a hater. All right. >> Danny L. Jones III says, "Alien invasion, oral or anal?" Good question. >> Giving or receiving? >> They're asking. >> Um, it depends. Are we are we aware of what's happening? Cuz I've had a colonoscopy and a endo what's it called? Endoscopy. >> Endoscop was it? >> Endoscam. >> Endoscopy. >> Endoscopy. Endoscopy. >> How do you feel that you could just get tested now versus not tested get blood taken? >> Well, that's for prostate. That's not for That's not for colon cancer. Colon cancer. You still have blood? They do have blood for colon, but it's not as accurate as the colonoscopy. >> Yeah, man. And the colonoscopy is fun. >> It's fun. >> I got knocked out last night. I was like, thank you. >> I love it, man. I totally see why Michael Jackson was on that [ __ ] Yo. >> Yeah. The >> pro what? Oh, >> and when the doctor tells you doctor be like, "Oh, you'll be out in 3 seconds." You like, "Yeah, right." He was one, two, >> then you wake up. You >> But it's scary when you wake up. >> Not really. >> It was like Yeah. I was like, "Where am I? You don't cuz it happened so fast and you have no memory." >> I was like, "Do it again." Not the colonoscopy. I don't know. >> That's what I'm talking about. >> It knocked me out. >> Do you remember the dreams that you had? >> Yo, I had the colonoscopy be first. No dreams. >> And then I had to go back for the endoscopy like a couple months later. Man, I was looking forward when they told me that they had to give me more propylene >> or whatever that what is it called? >> Provol. >> What's the [ __ ] called? >> Provol. >> Whatever that [ __ ] called. That [ __ ] is fire. >> You think you could be addicted to it? >> Hell yeah. >> Do you have addictive personality? >> No. I can quit [ __ ] cold turkey. Easy. Easy. >> Really? >> But I can also recognize when something is good. >> And that [ __ ] was good. >> That [ __ ] was good. Oxycottton was good. [ __ ] cocaine in a blunt with weed. >> Have you tried perks? >> Too much. >> I don't think I ever did perks perks too much. >> They they gave me some for the kidney stones. It It was too much for me. >> You You're from Philly. You supposed to pop perks like >> They actually gave me um morphine in the hospital and that was too much for me, too. >> Yeah, that was too much. >> Ain't fire that proylene, bro. >> Profilene is good, man. Profalene is good >> for aderal. >> But morphine is phenomenal. It's just like a furry warm hug. >> You may be too too fuzzy. But see the thing about the provoline you just gone. >> Well, you also did it for something that wasn't painful before. >> So like when I did the morphine, I had pain. >> Oh, >> and then I felt like almost immediate fuzzy warmth throughout my whole body and I was like this is unbelievable. >> That is true. >> So it was that it was the juxosition of pain to fuzzy warmth. >> Make it go away. Make it go away. Make it go away to >> amazing this forever. What was I worried about? >> Yes, this is great. >> Yes. >> Swallie says, "Uh, was Kanye's Chicago concert better than Jay-Z's Yankee Stadium shows?" I don't know. I wasn't at Kanye's concert. It looked good on the gram. Um, >> yo, music is powerful, man. >> It is. I would >> Music is a powerful thing, bro. >> I I would assume that Kanye's >> Kanye said Hal Hitler months ago. You know what I mean? >> But everybody has But everybody hasn't forgiven him. No. And by the way, everybody doesn't have to forgive him. Like the people that came to Kanye's show are people that rock with Kanye. And that's fine. But that's that should show us that the rule of 10 is real. The rule of 10. Three people going to like it. Three people not going to like it. Four people don't even know what the [ __ ] going on. >> Or maybe we look at as as the power of forgiveness. Maybe we look at as like when people feel like they've done something wrong and apologize that people let them move on. >> I would have to talk to some of those people. >> Maybe that's what it is. >> I would have to talk to some of those people because I don't know if that's the case. >> Oh no, Charlmagne. It isn't. Yeah. I think the people that like Kanye were at that concert, >> they didn't want to hear Homecoming. >> They didn't give a The people that the people that were at that concert never gave a [ __ ] that >> Nobody gives a [ __ ] >> They didn't say they didn't give a [ __ ] He said hell Hitler. They didn't give a [ __ ] that he said, you know, slavery was a choice. They didn't give a [ __ ] about none of that. And that's fine. I'm not that. Once again, three people going to like it. Three people not going to like it. Four people don't even give a [ __ ] about it. I wish I Yo, they had a headline that said Charlemagne the God says um >> they said slavery was a choice. No, I didn't say that. It says >> No, no, >> Kanye says Charlamine the God says Kanye's too old to be hosting after parties. First of all, Complex ran the article. If you read the article, Complex says I was joking. Why did people take me serious? I don't know. And all I was simply saying was Kanye is what 48, 49 years old. I'm 48. I don't want to go to an afterparty. >> Amen. >> The concert is the party. Amen. >> Okay. The concert is the [ __ ] party, right? And if there is a afterparty, let it be in the stadium. That was the smart thing about Jay-Z's uh parties, his little shindigs. They weren't they weren't parties. They were like lounges. You go down, you go right downstairs, you go in a little room, have a couple of drinks, and everybody goes home. >> This is this is what we did at the DJ. >> Every every like arena that we did, it was the exact thing. >> SAME THING. COOL LITTLE LOUNGE IN THE BACK. >> That's it. >> I'm not going nowhere. What you mean we the club? [ __ ] >> And if we did do something after, it was super intimate. It was like 30 of us. You see what I'm saying? >> Just the people who like worked on the show basically. >> And listen, shout out to everybody of a certain age. All of the Jay-Z's, the Kanye's. I'm happy that they starting their shows at a reasonable time. >> I mean, minus the night three of well, night four of the Jay-Z. >> Yeah, but that was ex uh extraneous circumstanc. >> Yes. >> Based on the I saw a couple clips. Was he performing over a vocal track? >> I don't know. >> That was kind of my impression. >> I don't know. >> But I didn't watch enough. >> Wait, why? for his other shows, he wasn't. >> Yeah, I just didn't think he would do that in the clip I watched. I felt like he was I could have gotten it wrong, though. >> Listen, the show looked amazing online. I just, you know, um Yeah, it I guess it depends what you're into. Kanye, I said this to somebody the other day. Kanye and 50 Cent were the beginning of a lot of people's rap fandom. >> You know what I'm saying? Like my rap fandom goes back to the 90s. Late 80s, early 90s cuz I'm 48 [ __ ] years old. But if you How old are you, Alex? >> 38. >> 38. Yeah. So your rap fandom, you from New York, so it's probably a little different. >> Yeah. It started with Big E and DMX. >> Yeah. So like a 35 year old is probably around that DMX Kanye. I don't even know if DMX would fit in there. I think more Kanye 50 cuz 50 was 02. Kanye was 03. >> It was 50 was before Kanye. >> Yeah. 50 was 02. Kanye was 03. >> You talking about a New Yorker or just like >> just in general just everybody. I just feel like those two were a lot of people's beginning of like rap stand. Like those are people's goats. Like my goats go back a little bit before that, but those are a lot of people's first goats. 50 and Kanye. I think >> if you're 30, if you're in your 30s. >> Yeah. So, it was like these are like impactful people in the curation of your your like idea of what rap is. >> It's 531, bro. >> I know. I got a few m. >> So, I get I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. Where it's like >> Yeah. When someone introduces you to a thing, you're always going to have like a special place in your heart for you. >> People know what they was going through when they heard Get Rich or Die Trying. They know what they was going through when they heard College Dropout. You know what I'm saying? like it was a different phase in people's lives. You might have been in college. Like you might have, you know, just started a a a job you like fresh out of. Who the [ __ ] knows? But I just feel like those were a lot of >> really like Kanye. I've noticed that like my daughters and all their their friends, they really like Kanye. He's like one of the top artists still today. >> I listen I say it all the time. If Kanye hadn't had that little, not little, but if he hadn't had that big blow up where he lost everything with Yeezy, if he would have just stayed on that path, there would be no artist bigger culturally cuz Kanye had music and he had fashion. >> Do you know how hard it is to get [ __ ] to wear your sneakers and you don't have a jump shot? And he had everybody wearing his sneakers of all age demographics, all races, every everybody had the slides. Everybody had those Croc-like shoes that he was wearing. Everybody was wearing his sneakers cuz it was comfortable. He had fashion and music. There would be no rapper ever culturally as big as Kanye if he hadn't have blown it all up. >> Yeah. >> But I think it's really about the music with him. I mean cuz if you look at >> fashion tudo Chris >> but no look at these kids who are 17 18 now that I know who love Kanye. I don't think they really know him for fashion at all. I think >> I I think you was they love his music. >> They love his catalog. I'm telling you >> I I don't think you're wrong. His music is definitely different and separates people. But like >> when's the last time Yeezys were hot? >> But could he [ __ ] >> I don't know. I'm just asking. I don't know. >> No, hold on. Hold on. the the the argument that I'm about to make, I think, makes sense. >> Jordan's relevance. >> Now, this sounds blasphemous. It's not. Jordan's a goat. But his relevance has been extended >> Yeah. >> through the sneakers. >> Yes. >> The kids that wear Jordans now never watch Jordan play basketball. So, like the idea of him and his greatness is extended through fashion. So I think what Charlemagne's point is so fashion can put you on this pedestal and he's already on a pedestal for music. It's a super it's like the two most impactful cultural indicators converging >> converging. >> So I so I do I do understand what you're saying >> and Kanye never fell off musically. And think about it imagine if he was still making clothes and sneakers at that at the at the high high level. M >> he probably wouldn't be doing music as much. So the music we did get >> he don't need to. >> But the music we did get would be like so great cuz he'd be really focused on it. >> And everybody in this generation that everybody loves Kanye is their goat. >> Mhm. >> You don't get Drake without Kanye. The Kendricks, you know, I don't know. I don't know if you get a Kendrick without a Kanye, a cold out of Kanye. Like Kanye opened up that lane for a lot of those type of artists. All of them. the walls, the Sea, the Cuis, Chance, the Rappers. Like, >> was was Kanye like >> Do you remember Kanye being like wildly popular in New York? >> Yes. >> Not so much in New York. >> I never felt it. Yeah. >> Kind of looked at him as like >> I don't remember. >> He was nerdy. Like >> nerdy dude rolling with Rockefeller. >> That's the thing. I I >> I don't remember that. I was in New York by 06. Kanye I remember Kanye coming on Wendy Williams show and he was the biggest star in the world and that was 06. That was probably around the time the second album. That first album he wasn't there. >> Maybe it was the second or third, but I could buy it. >> I remember liking the first album. I remember think it was good, but it wasn't like I don't know like again there's weird [ __ ] happening in in New York right now where like >> like the idea of New York is bigger than what New York is. >> Yeah, I know. >> So like there's this thing happening where like a chopped cheese is supposed to be like this like big New York sandwich. Like nobody ate chopped cheese growing up. >> It's always been like that though. >> This is Did you eat a chop? >> That was That was just the Bronx sandwich in a small area of the Bronx. That's it. >> And maybe uptown. >> Yeah, maybe up. But I just heard a bunch I just heard a bunch of Dominicans screaming when you said ain't nobody ate no chop cheese. >> Bro, I'm just telling you. >> I could hear him yelling from >> I can only tell you growing up. >> I'm telling you, growing up in this city, I heard people talk about chopped cheese. I thought that was some [ __ ] that was in Philadelphia, bro. I was like And people like, "Oh no, everybody in New York needs a chop." I'm like, child. >> What about the bacon, egg, and cheese on a >> bacon, egg, and cheese is New York. >> That's New York. >> Bacon, egg, and cheese, salt, and pepper, ketchup. Like, is is >> what y'all think that's a New York thing? >> Bacon, egg, and cheese, salt, pepper, ketchup. >> That's that's the sandwich that we would eat that that you get at the deli. >> So, like there's weird there's weird revisionist history things happening in New York. And it almost makes me go like like what the [ __ ] is happening? Like because you'll see it online and then I've seen some girls online saying what I'm saying going, "Yo, nobody was having [ __ ] chopped cheese in Brooklyn or Manhattan." Like this is not something that Anyway, so I'm wondering if the same thing is with Kanye cuz I did not remember Kanye having a cultural strangle hold on New York. >> Did he run New York for a summer? That's the question. >> Yes. >> I don't remember it. >> Yo, by Kanye's >> I don't remember it. I remember in college and like us listen to some [ __ ] in college. But I also remember us listening to who's a white rapper uh who wrapped about college. I can't believe I'm forgetting the Asher Roth. >> Asher Roth like it was >> Asher Roth was never as big as Kanye. >> No no I'm not saying he was a big I'm just saying that popular song it so I don't remember him having that run in the city and again I could be wrong. >> I mean is running New York even a thing anymore? >> Kanye definitely used to be a thing. First of all, you got to think Kanye as a producer. Kanye did the blueprint, bro. Put some [ __ ] respect on the blue. >> But that's not >> Kanye and just But I'm just saying >> his his his name was already starting to buzz. So he gave us the blueprint. He gave us [ __ ] like, you know, Beanie Seagull, the truth. He was doing records for Dip Set like Down and Out. And then by the time his album came out, Through the Wire was a [ __ ] monster. That was a big hit. >> Right. What else was on that album? On College Dropout, Through the Wire. >> I think Jesus Walks. >> Jesus Walk. >> Jesus Walks. >> All falls down. >> Yeah. All falls down. I've been working the same. >> THAT WAS ALL. YEAH, THAT WAS Kanye was out of here, bro. >> No, no, no. There's no question. >> That Last Call might be the best. That's Kids love that song. >> I'm not saying again, I'm not saying that the album wasn't prolific and people love the I'm just saying like >> there's a there's a different album. Yes, it was. >> There's a different emotion when somebody's running the like when 50 was doing it in the city. >> Well, he's from here though. >> That's that's kind of the argument I'm saying which is like Jay 50 Nas. We cannot sleep on Nas. When N when Stillmatic came out, it was like, holy [ __ ] >> Yeah, but they from New York. I get what you're saying. >> And New York is like when it's something from here. I even think that the down south rappers had more of like a cultural impact on New York. I remember them being really popular. >> The first non New Yorker I ever saw run New York, Snoop Dogg, the summer just came out. >> We were young, but >> I was like, what the [ __ ] is happening? Listen what y'all say. >> But that was an MTV effect, too. Y they were watching on MTV. Yeah. And that's when >> on the dirt bike with the sitting on the hand to what Charlamagne's about to say. >> They weren't running New York. They were just the biggest artist in the world at the time. >> And then MTV and BET kind of like consolidated music across the country >> and they're right there. >> Yeah. Whereas before radio would so like we would have the different pockets and we would be listening to different [ __ ] than you were listening to down south. It was someone I was listening to in LA. But once rap really started to take over the MTV audience, it started to take over pop culture. That's a great point. >> And that was Kanye. Kanye was the biggest thing in pop culture. Like it's it was like his first two albums. And I think it was the third album that they did the whole Kanye versus 50 Cent thing. >> But New Yorkers always like rugged hip-hop, man. So I think Kanye wasn't. >> But that's when the world changed cuz everybody got gay. >> Yeah. And we've been gay before most. But for with our hip-hop, we liked it. Again, I could be off. You tell me if I'm off. I just don't remember. >> Like he just was he wasn't that big. Like he was never as big as 50 in New York. >> Yes. >> Or Jay or Biggie or >> there was never a year that Kanye was bigger than 50. >> That's not true. New York. >> He was bigger. >> Bigger, >> but he didn't mean as much to us. >> I see. I don't know cuz I I keep thinking about the 106 and Park thing when him and 50 came out on stage together. >> But that's a national show. >> But it was based in New York. I don't I don't I I don't know. I there was a time where Kanye West was the biggest rapper in hip-hop. >> I still and listen this, you know, I I still think 50 is more important in New York than Kanye. >> Of course. >> I It's just A IT'S FROM HERE. JAY-Z MORE IMPORTANT IN NEW YORK THAN KANYE. >> They're from here. Yeah. But again, you could make the argument and you would be right to say like globally Kanye is a is a bigger massive star, but in terms of like importance to us and like held to a certain level of esteem, >> I wonder where Kanye couldn't sell a show out at other than Tel Aviv. >> What you mean? >> That's it. I got to go to school. >> I got to be a dad. I got to be a dad. 100% right. Be good, man. >> Yes, sir. >> Bye, guys. >> As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast and think we're just a couple idiots who don't know [ __ ] you're right, too. It's the Brilliant Idias podcast.