AI Impact Hour for Nonprofits August 2026

Welcome to EI impact hour for nonprofits everybody. Thank you guys for being here. My name is Artha Sims. I'm the webinar producer here. As you're coming in, yes, continue to let me know where you're zooming from. I do have some updates to give you. I'm excited that I'm going to put a link in the chat in just a moment. We're going to be having a conference in partnership with Tech Soup. It's called Stay of the Nonprofit Community. I hope to see you there live in Orlando, Florida. If you can't, the next weekend we'll be having it virtually. But today I bought one of your community members, person who has their own nonprofit or a part of a nonprofit, serves as a nonprofit to come do a demo for us. So in a moment, Sworner is going to come on and she's from the global school leader. She'll be sharing with us uh something that's exciting, which I think that something we all need in the way we communicate with people in our community is by looking at websites. That's how people reach out to us. That's how people find us. That that's how people know about some of our fundraising and our events and they register through our website. So, she's going to do a demo on website. And I know you're like website, but hold on. You're gonna be surprised. I'm excited. So, somebody said, "Looking forward to the session in Dallas, Texas. Am I coming to Dallas, Dylan? What explain to me?" I love it. But no, thank you so much for being here. I'm gonna turn the floor over to you because I want to give you all your time and then we'll come back. I'll see you in a moment. Welcome to Tech Soup. >> Thank you. Um, hi everybody. This is super exciting to be here. Uh, I have been a member of Tech Soup for probably six to seven years. So, I am Swarna. Uh, I am the director of technology and innovations from global school leaders. Uh, we are a global nonprofit uh who specifically work with school principal training. Um we work in the Latin America, Africa and Asia. Um I am mostly based out of India but I'm here spending a few uh months in the US. Uh and we are a US-based nonprofit. Um so I have been in the non in global school leaders for oh gosh like almost six to seven years. I have led the technology work here. Um I'm an engineer who got into education sector and I've been here for probably 13 years now. um I love technology to make it easier for people. So today's session is going to be about a specific project that we did and I want to really focus on a small aspect of that project. Um so I'm going to first give you context because context is very important for an AI uh as well. Um so we did a project called as virtual partner gathering. As I said, we work with three different regions, 50 plus organizations who are also nonprofits and we bring together our partner staff together uh virtually for um event where we come together, energize, connect and talk about school leadership. Um so just a little context about this particular project because the AI tool was used here. It'll help for you to understand where I'm placing this. So it was a 3-day event completely virtual three different time you can imagine I think we dealt with 20 different time zones uh in Asia, Africa and Latin America. We had 50 plus organizations sign up. Um this was done in March. It was a multilingual event. You can imagine it was in English, Spanish and Portuguese specifically. Um we had two to three months to plan execute. I led the project and there was so many work streams, so many teams. Um and I don't think this is new for all of you here. I'm sure all of you dealt with something like this before. So in all these particular work which I led there were like so many working things and I used AI and probably almost all but for this focus specific session I want to specifically focus on a site a micro site I would call we built for the partner event which was the gathering the virtual gathering and when I say gathering it was a zoom event guys like that's what we usually do. Um so this was a micro site we built for the partner communication pre and postevent and also during the event and please note it was a one-time site. Uh I would I'm calling these as a use and throw site not a good language but it was just for the event and it was not going to be used afterwards. Right? So that's the objective of what I used AI tool for. So before getting into it as I said this was a project that we did before. So there's an end product for me to already show you. But through this session, I'm going to probably give glimpses of how did we reach that end point using the site. So the what the the the tool that we used was lovable. Um so I'm going to quickly show you what this product actually looked like after we completed 3 months of project and stuffs like that. So this is the this is how the um the site looked even now. This is something I built on lovable. As you can see, it's L O V A B L E. Lovable is an app. Um uh I think the the word is vibe coding app that you can build apps by just prompting and chatting. It's one of the really famous and established vibe coding app which also if I'm not wrong turned into a unicorn. So a lot of investment. Uh but this is an end product. Right. Right. If you could look at this knowing the context of the project I just talked about, this is a site. If you look at it right now, it says, "Hey, thank you for joining us." It also says a WhatsApp community link that you can join. But this is the site that I built uh at and you can see what it looked like. And I'm going to show you how did I build it in a in a couple of minutes. But I want you to really closely look at this product as I go through because we're going to see the timeline in a way. How did we come here? So, as I said, it's a gathering. You can see the color themes that's probably repeating. This is our color theme uh for the event. And you can see it's in English and Spanish because language is very important for us. Um and you can see I have put together day 1, day 2, day three event. So, you can see what was the agenda for day two, what was for day three. Um and also for day one detailed agenda of what was going to happen, which partner is going to come and our network information like who's coming from Asia, who's coming from uh Latin America. Oh yeah. So these things, right? And there were also some instructions for our partners to say, okay, before the event, please make sure you fill this pre-event survey. Before this event, you do this ABC and some guidance. And then this is what we share, right? And then after the event, this was post March as you could see, I also created a tab called as gathering overview which had details about what went on that day. So you can see on the three days I had a tab which said on day one all these things happened. This was discussed. This person said these things. We have big summary of what happened in the session and then similar for day two, similar for day three. This is just a glimpse of what we did for those 3 days and it's a documentation of how the event went and anybody can come here even right now as you can see and see actually what happened. Um it helps for people to go through as text and we of course have recordings and links that was part of that event. So why am I showing you the end product is is just for you to know the context of this and I think that's very very important for any AI tool. So, I'm going to quickly tell you, okay, this looks super technical and overwhelming. If that's your question in your mind, and if you think, oh, Swartna, she said do this, please remove that from your mind. It's it's not the case because I'm going to show you how did everything start. So, the first thing I did here is we now looked at the site, right? Um, and here are some things for you to remember before I go to the next step. before I even created the site. These are some things that we already knew. So I knew the agenda of the three days like we a lot of human effort right we work with our team we know what we're going to say what's going to be the agenda who's going to be called who's going to be the panel all those things were something that our team was already doing and I had a claude project when I say project you can think I had a claude chat like I used claude mainly for this so I used claude I used a chat and I said it knew everything for the 3 months of planning from all all these things like who's going to come, what time zones. So, it had a memory, I would use the word memory and context of everything I was doing as the project was going. And the most important thing I would kind of say that I was very very clear that this is a one-time site and there was no storage needed in the site. And uh I'm going to say in simple words, what do I mean by storage? So imagine you are going in a website and you have to login. Yeah, you put username and password. So a website needs to store it somewhere to authenticate it, right? So this is a advanced website. But the site I showed you is a view only. You can only see it. It's more text, beautiful messages, beautiful themes, but you don't have anything to put in, store or like load a registration form inside the form. No, it was a very simple view only app. So how I started it and this is exactly the prompt I took it from my history. This is exactly what I gave. So I'm going to read it. I'm going to I said I want to build a website in this format. Can you help me prompt this so that I can put in lovable? Keep the prompt very simple. All I need is one page with the hero section, the partner gathering logo, dates and tabs. I need a countdown timer and it needs to be in English and Spanish. So you can see here I have highlighted two things. One is I have given a reference for a format and that is going to be a very very critical thing because I already had something in my mind that I wanted the website to mimic. So for people who here think that was too overwhelming you have to think about designing like I think for me it was easier because I had a reference and I'm going to show you that reference. This is a partner site that we did two years ago. This was a in-person meeting, but you can see that there was already effort from us that we did like a site which was a one-site thing. Of course, this was done on Wix. A developer worked on it, a coms person. It was a huge task and I would still not discount it. It was a very important task, right? And this was an in-person event. There was day 1, day 2, day three. So, what I did is it was a public facing form, a link. So I copied this and I said in my prompt very clearly that I gave it a reference. So I'm not starting from scratch. I'm saying hey this is a reference. Can you make sure I have a very similar structure but I want the output. If you see this is a claude thing. So I'm asking claude first like give me the output so that I can paste it on lovable. Right? So if you think about it this is the first ever how it started and it gave me this weird huge answers. Don't don't get overwhelmed. I know this looks very very overwhelming but I'm going to show you how this helped me build the first option. So you can see here what I did is this right clude already design planning communication everything like who's going to talk what's going to happen what's the time zone even the coloring themes I told I knew and I kind of trained Claude on here is the color schemes and the the partner the communication team helped in this but I asked Claude how to prompt lovable so Claude knew what kind of prompt will lovable accept cept so that I can build a better website. So imagine this is the flow right. So I showed you this I asked I showed you what I asked Claude and I also showed you what Claude gave me and I am going to copy this and then show you lovable. This I should have started but this is lovable. It's I mean it sounds very cliche. Lovable is really lovable. Uh it's very amazing product. If you really love building things, it could help you go from zero to one pretty quickly. Um, and but you I also want to give a caveat that people think that you could wide code applications and get into production sooner. I would kind of break that myth. As I said, know the strengths. I think for us as nonprofit team who are not very tech-savvy in a way, but we could kind of prompt and do certain things. So what I did is I took the uh output of Claude because Claude gave me everything I needed. I don't have to think about it and Claude knew my reference, right? And I'm going to attempt here, but I'm not sure if would work well mainly because here I took a choice. Lovable has a free plan of course and a paid plan. The paid plan is I think $25 a month and I was strategic about getting it just for that month. like I knew that $25 was worth the investment than me trying to hire a developer and build a website. So, I used it, but now I have a free plan, but I'm still going to try this. So, I'm going to paste the exact thing that Claude gave me for you to know how it would work. So, basically, you are it's almost talking to Claude, right? You you're talking to a AI tool and you're saying, "Hey, I want to build a website which would look like this. It needs to have this. It needs to have that." you're prompting it things for you to just remember and this is a more thing for you to really remember if you're using lovable is of course everybody really gets money because of the credits of AI which is now getting more and more expensive right so one very important thing to remember is this option which says build or plan so here you can see build is like it will automatically start like doing the work okay I'm going to create a website it starts working for every work it because it will charge us AI tokens. But if you want to plan, you could kind of discuss it. It's almost like before building that you talk like, "Oh, I don't like this color. Can you change this into blue? I like I don't like this color. Can you make that?" You could plan it and then build it. And that's one way of saving credits. So, for now, in this free plan, I'm just going to paste it. And I'm going to just build it. I'm going I'm just asking it to build. So, let's let it work on the side. And you can see it will be thinking it will be doing something on the left and it's building. I hope I don't I can do this in a free plan but I want to show you what kind of uh work that went behind building this site and I have everything ready for you on another tab. So so this is like I would call it like a timeline of how and where it went. And if I'm not wrong my chat history was from February end to March end. That is the chat history. Of course, I can't show you every iteration. Please remember that building a site is iterative, right? You start something, then you go on building, building, building, right? So the output, the first ever output that lovable gave me from the claude's input is what you're seeing. This was a preview. So I'm showing you this was my first attempt of what I put as prompt. Now if you think about my end product, this is no nothing looks like the end product, right? That means I have worked through that end product by by keeping on talking and improving it as the project move forward. So you can see here I have a countdown which of course won't work now because the event is over but there's a logo you can see the same thing but it just has 1 2 3 and it stops. But you remember my end product was more detailed. So I'm going to show you few changes that I did and meanwhile I'm just going to check if my AI thing um working. I think it's still trying to think this through. So I'll still stick with my own plan here. So this was the first attempt. Now after I think I have tried to do it like after 2 days of my working. Of course this this keeps changing. This is my second preview. The next timeline where I keep kept giving it more and more kind of uh inputs. You now you can see oh now I have a logo and now the colors have changed. So you can see this is where my input goes. And when you say when you're asking me what do you mean by input swarna it looks something like this. So as I build sessions you can see my chat history which goes way way way back. But all I'm trying to tell you is this is my first thing as I said February 25th I gave the first prompt. Then I kept on improving. You can say oh after the logo can you do this? Can you change this things? So I kept on talking being strategic about the AI tokens because I got a paid plan for one month. And I kept on improving it. And this is the timeline. First one, okay, it was 0ero to one like starting somewhere. Second, I added a new logo. I said, "Hey, can you make sure these colors are not black, but I want the themes of the colors." And I changed it. And you can see it's still the same. Now, after a few days, as the project's getting on the side, I'm working with my team trying to figure out the sessions. I would say the next attempt you can see is before this and this, I added seconds. as like oh I think seconds would be cool because you can see the timer running and now you can see it's more advanced right the same agenda day 1 day 2 day three we have it here but oh I now have a partner organization update because at that moment of time we knew that these people are participating so I I kept I said hey we now know who's going to come can you add their logo it was able to add it and of course I gave the logo it like I uploaded the logo to it right and then I also added this partner a network section. I said, "Hey, uh, can you add a new section at the end where I have three tabs if I share Africa, Latin America?" And for each of these tab, this image should come. If you think this was too complicated, I just took a screenshot of a deck from our partnership slide. So, it's not complicated. I just took a picture of our existing slide and I just uploaded it here. Right? So, Asia, Africa, LATAM, it was able to upload. And as you go below, as you can imagine, my project is going now. I have a survey link that's ready and these imag these are not surveys that happens inside the website it happens outside the website. So this was add giving them to um I think it was a Zoho survey link we gave a link for the myro board. So this is more like add this add a button to call for action as it goes. So after a few more days I'm going to the next section now looks at what changed. Okay, day 1, day 2, day three. But ooh, now we have an agenda which was not there before. Because at that point of time, my project had agenda. So as I'm working, I come here, I give an agenda and it's able to update. And please remember here all I did was talk, right? I did not say put in a blue box. I think AI needs context and you're keeping on building on top of it. So then I'm like, hey, now a new agenda came. Can you help me build it? And then it was able to give me and for all these things remember Claude was my main thing. So my project planning Claude came Claude gave me a prompts which I used it again in lovable. So now you know it's it's getting on improving. So now I think we were mostly done. So now the next So now I think the event is over. It went well. Great. Now I'm coming after the event. This is most postevent happening. So now you can see now I added a banner that says thank you for joining. So as soon as the event got over I made sure that there was a thank you for joining. So all I came back and said hey can you add a new banner which says thank you for joining and add a link that will take you to a feedback survey. Again project is happening. I'm informing talking to Claude if needed or directly coming to lovable and typing it out. Now this is ready. The last thing I really want to focus here is how I am also using other AI tools to get to this point. So now you can see I decided as a team that we need a overview because a lot of times we send oh here is all the recorded videos right but I was in a session where somebody sent me an overview like this so I had a reference in my mind now oh I want an overview but I want it like this again same step what I did I went to Claude I said hey I have an overview idea can you help me do this but for this one important thing now if you think about like how on earth did I write overview for 3-day event which was almost close to 6 to 7 hours of meeting. So for that what I did is let me show you in a minute here I used other AI forms. So same concept claude and lovable but in all our zoom meetings we had zoom summary and fathom is a AI tool that I use very personally for note takingaking. So I introduced both of them to all our Zoom meetings. So, Fathom and Zoom gave me summaries of all three days with even the transcripts. So, using that, I just uploaded back to the same claude chat. Now, Claude knows that all these things happened. It also now knows what happened in those three days. Then I ask a technical prompt and saying, "Hey, Claude, I want a summary. Pick out these things. I want testimonials. I want important phrases to remember. I want important key steps to remember." And then Claude helped me create a prompt that I could just go paste it back to lovable. And then in lovable I kept on changing and improving. Right? That is the process. So imagine you used multiple AI tools. So I could play around using Claude's advantages, Fathom's advantages, and Lovable's advantages. Right? And then with that, I was able to build um this overview. Day 1, day two, day three, what happened, what opened. Again, I just went back to Lovable and I kept on typing it. So, this is how we reached at this point of time. Um, I know I I don't think Lovable was able to give me what I wanted to show live. Um, let me check. Um, was it this? No, hold on. Oh, it's trying to do but you can see it's I did not give the logo so it created one which I made a mistake but you can see it almost created the very same thing I showed you. So, very similar structure that it gave. And then here is where I say we could keep on adding, right? So it it also gives you prompting. Then I said, "Can you change the color of xxx?" I'm just going to give you. So this is how you build. You have a chat box, you type, it builds, you see the preview. Again, be very careful about the AI credits. I think we have 100 credits for a month or a day if I'm not wrong for the paid plan. So I I'm very careful on where I use credits. maybe I can use those credits back in claude do everything I have to think come back here and do it right so this is how I was able to build the site uh I realize I've been talking for a long uh but overall I think what I really really wanted to communicate to you is this one so I was able to show you all these things this is all the chat history that I showed you right so you remember that we started off here we kept on improving we kept on talking to lovable we were able to reach teach this, right? But the most important thing for you to remember in in this entire section is these three things. First one, just ask about just ask oh I'm sorry this a typo I should have just ask AI about AI. A lot of times we think about a new tool and you know oh my god where do I start? But if you are comfortable with one tool, say if it's that GPT or Gemini or Claude, I always use another AI to help me think about another AI. Like if you think your prompting needs to be good, just ask AI how to prompt. Like you can say how I used Claude to prompt lovable, right? Just do that. The second one I feel this is my personal opinion that when you know the strengths and weaknesses of different tools, the sum always beats the part. So I was able to leverage Zoom summary, Fathom summary, claude, lovable all together to put down a really good gathering overview and FYI uh the the site that we built almost had,500 views and people really loved it that they were able to see it all in one place, right? And from a cost perspective of course my time, but it was a $25 investment to do this and I did not take extra effort because there was already a lot of things happen. It was just a thought on how you can use existing projects here. And the last one, I will never underestimate this uh is like AI is as powerful as the human behind it. Like context and memory plays a very important role. Like if you remember, I I was the person who was taking care. So I knew what was happening. I made sure Claude knew Claude knows everything. So plot would not give me an amazing output if it did not know about even the smallest things of like the time zones uh or what time zone is someone from Sierra Leon so that it makes that it it puts that clearly on the site right and for that there was a lot of memory memory is a term I use for claude for it to remember and there a lot of intentional work here um in terms of cost lovable we paid for that for that month claude we have a claude for nonprofits account thereby from privacy concerns and all those things was within the project so we didn't have to uh we were cautious about making sure what we using AI and what we are not using AI for but I can never discount the amount of people who made this happen right for the site to happen there was so much of effort from our comm's team a partnership team me to just keep on feeling it so the foundation is always human but the way you use AI is really powerful when you use that Um, I'm going to stop here. I realize I've been speaking for quite uh 25 minutes now. Um, but I'm going to stop here. This is what I really wanted to say how you can use Lovable with combination of everything to build a site that can be super super powerful. Uh, and I'm going to stop here and see. >> Amazing. Amazing. Yes, there were questions in the chat. Amazing, guys. And um let me scroll back up because and guys feel free to look at the look at the hand clap emojis going up. Yes, I love it. Uh um Els El Elsa said this is a real eye opener. Yes, it really is. Um let's see who said uh quick quick scroll up scroll up. Okay. Um, can level add to an existing website? Like if we wanted to build the build the storage side of what of the site instead of connecting a member CRM. H >> I think I like the way you describe that it's a one-off. But yeah, go ahead. >> Yeah, I feel so I think lovable can do a lot of things depending on what we need. The only thing for us to take that call is it needs an investment of a tech person right like for authorization for authentication for security for single sign on you we can I can definitely build a registration site on office I'm sure lovable is lovable and it's it's one of the unicorn because it gives that but I think there's a difference between uh like prototyping to deployment in a real world with all these authorizations so I was very clear that that's not something I want or that's not something for this project we wanted. So, we did not go about that. But I'm assuming I'm and I need to check. I'm assuming it's possible. We just need more investment of time and energy and probably a tech person if you can understand the coding and stuffs like that. >> Yeah, you said all the keywords. I know I used lovable and then I realized I had to add it to something else and add to connect it to something else and something else and all those little things kept costing money. So I realized it wasn't the right tool for what I needed for that moment. Okay. Somebody said where where did the feedback survey assuming that the separate platform and not something that [clears throat] AI built for you? Where did you do the feedback survey? >> Yeah. So so we just used our own surve. So basically we have certain tools in global school. So we use Zoho survey is our survey uh form default. We don't use Google survey mainly because Zoho gives us multilingual options. So that has always been our um go-to. So we build all our surveys there. So the website would link them to a Google the Zoho survey where they will just fill it in and then we have a mechanism to look through that surveys and do it. So as you that's a good question because this was like a a one site for people to know what are the options but sometimes tech doesn't have to integrate everything right that makes it more complicated and having a survey separately works perfectly fine because we have a ecosystem where people know how to log into the survey find out responses but as a project manager I still take those survey put it back to claude if needed and making sure there's no confidential information and then I yes I use claude again to see okay we got this much feedback survey uh can you tell me who has not filled it so it helps me now track people who have not filled it and started another communication so we use different systems but for me the intention was to have everything in claude uh for it to know and like know have the memory >> so good all right um Mike was saying wondering if um using if you're using the basic claude chat in a project or are you using clawed co-work in a project that's a good question >> um I did not used cloud co-work. I just used the basic uh version. Uh it was just prompting and chatting right. So I just used a very normal claude. I think when I was doing this if I'm not wrong earlier stages I used a claude pro account in my account but I think later I moved to the claude uh nonprofit account but the functionalities are still the same. I did not use claude co-work at all for this. >> Good. Good. Good. Caroline said was any of your content considered confidential? And was the site secure in any way? And there's another question she asked, but I'll let you answer that one. >> Yeah, that's a very good question. I think um even for this presentation, I was thinking, oh my god, I have to share screen. Is it something? But I thought through it, right? I don't think there's anything confidential uh specifically for this event. Of course, if there's something else, we would have thought about it. So, this site doesn't have any email ids or or anything that people can contact of except like say the communications email ID. So we didn't have anything very confidential even the conversation was more broader about this leadership community. So even now probably even if you read this or see this recording you will only see what was the highlight what was the conversation around and there was nothing very important uh that was in our in our standards confidential. Yeah. >> Beautiful. And I love how you said you got a $25 donation and you use that $25 to build that site for that event. And so this goes back to Carolyn's second part of her question. Do you have credits with Claude and with Lovable? And was there a limit to each? >> Um, so I think for Claude, uh, because I had a I we have a pro account which is, uh, it has its own usage limits. I'm not but usually Claude Pro accounts gives you more gas to run other than a free account. It I I think it was still manageable. Um I don't remember the exact limit. I don't think it's it's there's a strict number but like if I'm using it a lot like to do like building reading PDFs and building something sometimes I used to go of usage limits but it will be like hey you can come back after 4 hours even in a pro account. So in that way claude was still helpful because this project I showed you was a two months project right. So it was not everything on one day. So, we still had that leeway to go around with this. And for Lovable, as I said, I got a one month uh $25 account which hadund $100 100 credits like and their credit definition is very different. So, it was it was I [snorts] did not I think I under I I kind of overpaid. I would have if there was an option under that, I would have taken but that was the minimum. I did not use it at all as much as I should have. But $25 a month was perfect for us in that way. M so good. So I wanted to give an opportunity for anybody that wanted to come on. You you don't have to come on camera if you want to share how you're using AI and how it's make it made an impact on your nonprofit. Uh again uh lots of thumbs up coming up for you. Uh Swarna, I love how you all are coming to the AI impact hour every month to participate. when you leave there is going to be a survey and on that survey it asks if you would like to be a presenter or a panelist and um let's see it's we have one it's 1:34 so um we don't have to take all this time if there's no one who wants to come up to share how you're using AI um this is your time to share and also it's a time that pe when people hear it they think ah because look at this building a website you know how much people are charging to build websites five and 10 and $15,000. Um, and that was just for an event and she took advantage of the $25 gift that they got and created a website just for that one time. I think that's amazing. It shows the innovation of um what nonprofits have to do to make their money stretch. So, uh, did you want to share anything? I think as she put thank yous in the chat, lots of um, comments coming up. No, I'm just really really grateful that you demoed Lovable. I think that's a great tool that a lot of nonprofits probably are not aware of. And then for those that who are aware of it, they may not realize how simple it can be. Yes, it can get complicated, but it is built so you don't have to worry about coding. And I also love how you leverage Claude or I should say another generative AI tool to help prompting because that that I love that that you did that because it helps with the back and forth and like you said using the credits, right? But for me it also is kind of like in the background showing me and teaching me new prompt skills as well. So once I leave from those platforms as I'm using co-pilot for something else, I remember how Claude kind of reformatted those prompts and you know what I was thinking. So this was really really really really helpful. I hope that you continue. I hope you come back and demo something else like this was really really great. Thank you so much. >> Yes, I agree. Okay, there's a question in the Q&A. It said the project seemed like it was extensive. Was this your first goaround or have you done things like this before? Your finished product was impressive. Just wondering um what your experience was. Great question. >> Oh wow. Um well um I think this was my first uh in a way which is where I have to do like an event. Uh I was leading an event completely end toend project management and things like that. I have built um sites before uh like my first project when I joined my nonprofit was to build a site during co because it was co and we had to host something. So I have experience of building low tech solutions. Um like my go-to was Google sites. Google sites is still my very very very um uh like it it's it's I don't know if I should call it's my lovable in a way like Google sites is super easy to build. Everybody mostly has Google. So so I feel I have a lot of experience building those kind of sites and I also want to call out that you know like I do have an engineering background which which I have not coded for a long time so I did not code as such but I do understand and acknowledge that that also sometimes helped me in certain ways for example even my first prompt you would have noticed I said the hero section needs to be this and I think that's a keyword I kind of know because I've done this so many times but again I don't want to share that only if you are an engineer who have built sites, you can do this. The reference is very very helpful. So if you like a site, you can even take a screenshot and keep it and if it's a public site, you can just say uh the uh AI to use it. But I would say this is my first time doing like an end to it project like this was a small part I think in many different parts of the same project. I used AI in many ways mainly because of resource constraints to be honest. Um but uh building sites is something I I do a lot. So yeah, >> I love it. I'm so impressed. So once again, thank you for being here. I would love for you guys to put some more emojis, some hearts, some claps, some finger snap. There's no finger snap, but you can snap your own finger behind the screen. People were saying that's fantastic, Cindy. Thank you, Cindy. Lots of emojis going up for you, Swana. I really thank you for being here and sharing your knowledge. Yes, it was fantastic. As people were saying, thank you, thank you, thank you in the chat. Um, you guys are going to get the video replay later today or early tomorrow. Um, feel free to put your information in that survey that's going to pop up when you leave Zoom. It's going to pop up on your window. Three, four little questions take you four minutes to fill it out. And I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you guys. And I'll see you next month. >> Thank you so much. Have a good day. Bye. Bye. Bye. >> Bye.