Adjusting my load with Andy Galpin.

All right, what do you want to try? >> You want to do my training program? >> What is this? >> This is actually optimal training for muscle growth. >> This is not for you. >> Right. And you can see if you had any actual quality muscle >> Real. Okay. So, this is like a dungeon. >> Can we revisit these? We put so many items of clothing on. These got an under I bet they've got an under short lining in as well. >> Mine and Andy's relationship is predicated on taking the piss out of each other. Guys will understand. I fear that women may not fully. Anyway, you look horrible. What should we do? >> As close as you can and ideally put your head on my chest. Now we're >> Oh. >> Uh we're going to be about 25 minutes here. These finds the giveaway, man. Like when you've been junked up and haven't done anything This is the spot. So, one leg out extended. >> Oh. Okay. >> So, like all this stuff play. You don't want perfect symmetry. >> The guy is trying to move, put load ordination and then trying to move fast. Most people hop like this for 60 seconds a day. You can see Achilles tendon after it's cut in half across the world. >> Hey, um Have you got your shorts on inside out? Yes. The answer's yes. >> No. The answer's not. >> Oh, you've rolled the tops over. >> over. >> Right, because you're so small. >> Uh >> But if you were to wear them >> Can I can I just undo it again? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> going to wear them wear them properly. Okay, one. Two. Wow, yeah, you really >> No, no. I've got none. >> Okay, there are There are other people around. Hips. Across >> Yes, sir. Yep. >> So, it's like hip hip. All right. >> 100%. >> Hip. >> Yep. >> Punch. >> Yep. So, we're obviously not maximizing any sort of muscle growth here. You're not really maximizing strength at all. >> Uh-huh. >> But you will feel >> Woah. >> that. >> Yeah. >> Big time, right? >> Yeah. >> And now your your legs are working. You can see like if If had any actual quality muscle, you would see some contraction activation there. If I If I have these on, you would see. Next time I'll take these off and you'll see. >> Yeah. Well, with those shorts on, it would be a [ __ ] public crime, WOULDN'T IT? YOU LOOK LIKE A TEENAGE Mutant Ninja Turtle. >> So, this is the type of stuff I kind of like on the road. And I like it as like a recovery day. >> Yeah. >> Like you're going to literally leave the gym feeling better. >> It has been quite a while since I did that. >> Yeah, right. And like this is also load that does not go into recovery capacity. Like it's not taking anything out of your normal training. >> And that also means you're not going to sleep any worse. You're not going to be any more >> For sure. >> fatigue tomorrow. >> No, not at all. Probably in fact again, probably the opposite because you're going to feel more like >> limber and loose. >> Totally. All right. >> Same again, 3-second isometric? >> Yes, sir. Why the isometric? >> 90-degree >> We can do that, too, if you want. You're holding at the bottom, though. You're going to get more range of motion progression here. So, a big part of flexibility and range of motion is neural feedback. >> Where your body feels comfortable. >> Totally. >> Right. >> You're desensitizing. So, now you're going to wake up tomorrow probably a better baseline range of motion. >> Because your body thinks it is safe for me to be in this position. >> Yeah. And you get a nice pump. Right? People have uh more movement issues during movement than not. >> Can you Can you say that differently? >> Yeah. So, you're going to have more technical breakdowns when you're moving than when you're staying still. >> Yeah. >> So, you get in the bottom position, make sure you're dialed. And then take that to fatigue. So, you don't have to worry too much about technical breakdowns and resetting. So, now that we're a little more warmed up, we'll get a little bit deeper position. >> Yeah, that's significantly deeper. You're very limber. Much more limber than I thought you would be. >> Well, you don't have all that muscle on you. >> Uh yeah, well, again, as we identified yesterday, you have been in a perma cut. >> Uh what exactly do you mean by that? >> You appear to have lost all of the muscle that comes with being in a deficit. >> Yeah. >> But as yet none of the fat. >> Mhm. So I somehow found some new pioneered some new methodology in which I could just go hypochloric for presumably decades. >> Yeah, maybe your entire life actually. Um >> And all I do is lose muscle. >> You have managed to build impressively through obviously what is quite a complex and sophisticated training methodology. >> Yeah. >> A really unimpressive physique. >> So the reality of it is what you don't know is this is actually optimal training for muscle growth. >> Okay. >> Yeah, just enough >> for you. >> Right. Now you take an intellect like mine >> Okay. >> and you actually put a physique like yours on top of it. >> It's like >> Not fair. >> warps the reality around it. Yeah. Cross. >> Yep. >> All right, yeah, that's >> we rotate. >> I'll follow you. >> Um this is your third session today? Your third workout? I mean I I just assume the grunting and fatigue is you must have worked out multiple times today. >> No. No, I'm just really weak. >> I'm just wondering what happens at your live shows >> Uh-huh. >> when people see you in person they realize your entire physique is an AI filter? >> All right, the one thing that I get is you're bigger in person than you look on camera. So the camera does take off 20 lbs but unfortunately 20 lbs of muscle. >> Ah, is that all right? >> Yeah, apparently. Which for you actually must make you look invisible when you turn sideways. >> Uh-huh. >> You are very limber. >> Yeah, mobile. >> Uncomfortably is the case. Oh, wow, okay. I think I might have to I think I might have to drop this down again. That is some absurd range. >> Aren't you a full range of motion kind of guy? >> I am but dude, I mean not with that level of loading. Holy [ __ ] >> So we squat, lunge and the idea is >> Yeah, knees to floor or just where it's comfy. >> Yeah, yeah. >> That's a little that feels a little bit much for me. >> Yeah, and then like a 2-second iso, yeah, there you go. So, again, we're limiting load intentionally because we're putting a little bit off balance, putting a deeper range of motion. So, because we don't have a ton of load, we're not really causing any damage. >> Okay. Oh. That is not easy. I mean, I'm sure that looks easy, and it did look easy. >> Yeah. It would look like >> If I'd done it first, it would have looked as difficult as it is. >> Yeah. >> It seems like there's been a big advent move of the evidence-based lifting community kind of going mainstream. >> Uh-huh. >> Uh what do you make of that? >> Well, this was you you could say this about the entire scientific community, right? Now, obviously, I was the first scientist ever that tried to be in the public sphere. >> Yes. >> Not a single scientist ever in the world tried to do it before me. >> Yep. >> So, one could say and have said I mean, I haven't said it, but some could say >> Pioneer. >> I am the original Andrew Huberman. >> Yeah, you're kind of like the Michael Jackson of >> Um Jordan, you meant? >> No, Michael Jackson. >> Okay. No, no, no. >> Um >> No, what what the the honest answer is this is what we begged for, right? As an exercise science community as a >> People to listen to the data and research. >> We wish scientists would be out there more. We Well, then we got it, and people complain. So, you're like, okay. >> What do you think the complaints are due to? Elitism? >> It's It's that, too, but it's also like Look, look, I've done it where I'm like I can't tell you how many things I like kind of legitimately pioneered. And then other people are out there saying it with no credit. It's jealous. It doesn't matter. Like, if you're really there for it what you should care about is people get better information, right? So, then when people get out there, spread your information, why are you bitching? But it's also the same time hard being like, get that back knee down. To be like, man, I did something original, >> didn't get the credit for it. >> Didn't get the credit for it. >> Yeah, it's like someone's cover of your song doing more plays than the >> That's exactly right. >> first song. >> But it's then the same time like you go back, the self-position keeps happening cuz you're like, yeah, but you just took that from somebody else, too. >> Yeah. >> Or somebody else got you 90% of the way and you just connected that dot. So, then are you crediting them every single You can't, right? >> Well, >> So, I think the easiest thing for us is like it used to be hard earlier in my career cuz I felt like I was doing things and then not getting credit for it. >> Uh-huh. >> But then once you hit a critical mass of when you're like, you are pretty successful, now it's way easier for me to go, I'm good. Great. >> I'm with you so far. >> I don't need to do it. >> We've seen this with Joe, right? That somebody who is yeah, very uh high at the top of their field is able to be very giving. >> 100%. >> And uh Schultz first said this to me. He said um >> Who? >> Andrew Schultz, comedian guy. >> Yeah, yeah. >> He said, "We have a very sort of benevolent guy at the top of the tree." >> Yep. >> And it didn't have to be that way. >> No. >> For all of the things that people problems that people have got with Rogan, >> Of course. >> interviews, journalistic integrity, whatever, or credentials, journalistic credentials, >> Sure. >> he is so not the [ __ ] that we could have got. It It does infinity circles of hell deeper >> Yeah. >> than it could have been. Somebody who's petty, backbiting like like gamesmanship. Um Yeah, we're really fortunate whatever version of the simulation that we looked out at that the the guy that launched this industry is a genuinely good person. >> [ __ ] >> It is not that way in most industries. >> He's a classic example, right of Like you and I are biased. Because he personally did probably like uncountable amounts of our individual successes are because of Joe. >> Correct. >> Right? Like him having me on 8 years ago. Spinny spinny. >> Yeah. >> You like whatever, right? >> Yep. >> Neither one of us would be here without Joe. >> Yep. >> So we're biased. But at the same time you have to judge people, you have to judge sciences, you have to judge fields by the totality. And it's really hard to look at a guy like that and say he's an untrustworthy human being. Why? Cuz people go on arcs, right? So sure, maybe he's way off about something right now. Way on something right now. Was off on something in the past. Just look at the arc. He's very obviously on aggregate trying to do good things. So yeah, you're a human. There will be some like bad decisions and bad things. Like all of us. When you put that kind of information out that frequently or that many years >> Yep. >> It's an arc. It's a 10 or 12 or 15 year arc. And I just I have a hard time looking at his body work and going >> bad guy. >> He's the bad guy. Bad, wrong, sure. Said wrong, all those things. >> 2,300 now? >> I was on like 998. >> [ __ ] >> But I I look back and I'm like, oh, it was just a couple years ago. And then I'm like, [ __ ] he's done a thousand more podcasts since >> Correct. Correct. >> It's wild. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So yeah, he's tough, right? Like when you look at fields in general >> Yeah, can you get the baby wipes out of the way, please? >> Yeah, you can I'll lift them my pinky. >> Yeah, right where I'm going to step on them and tear an Achilles. >> It's all right, don't worry. >> Yeah, you know how you can tell someone's in the gym like never? They put weights right in the middle of where someone else is. >> They wear that outfit. >> Yeah. >> Your wife's go-to-bed socks to train in. >> Well, >> Unbelievable. >> No, anyway, point I'm really trying to make You sit here and have demands and wishes of fields. >> Yep. >> And we say I can't how many times have you heard people say things? These [ __ ] influencers. I wish we had teachers and doctors and scientists who are famous people. >> Uh-huh. >> And now you got it. >> Yeah, and you're still not happy. >> It's the wrong scientists. >> No, all right. >> This is supposed to be rejuvenative. I thought this was a hang. >> You know, when you invited me to do this, you're like, "Hey, we won't actually train or just make it on camera like we are training." >> Yeah. >> Let me ask you, is this the first time you've actually ever exercised on one of these exercise vlogs? >> No. No. Trained with Is Retel a couple of times, he trains hard. Trained with Mike Thurston. >> Thurston trains hard. >> Yeah. Maybe Okay, maybe I'm just weak. That's I'm I'm acceptable it's an acceptable reason that I might just be weak. What are we doing that? Can it be Are we doing arms yet? >> Yeah, yeah. We actually going to do arms. You're going to really >> doing arms in a [ __ ] lunge position, I'm going to kill you. >> That's what I want to do, a [ __ ] bicep curl. >> My god, TRX rows. >> to row to a face pull and then back. Yeah, so we're doing arms? >> What is this? >> This is to keep your Remember that poor shoulder mobility showed me earlier? We're going to get that thing fixed up. Press to your face, put your face straight up. And then collapse back down. Whoa, let's try to control it though. And then go a little more of an open angle on the press up. So, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you can bring back down. >> This is rhomboids, lower traps, and almost no arms. >> Yeah. >> You lied to me. And the worst thing is, as a person who's been training for 17 years, >> Yeah. >> I believed you. I looked at you and thought, "Yeah, that that might work some arms." >> Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's plausible. >> This is like a physiological psych-op. We We did this series on the show for maybe 20, 30 episodes over many, many, many years. Uh it's called Life Hacks. And um >> Life Hacks? >> Life Hacks. And it was It would be >> Like a segment for every episode? >> No, it was an entire episode where we did a round table, me and two friends. And it was we would all come prepared, and we would have maybe between five and 10 things each. And it would be, "Here's a new amazing toasted sandwich maker. Here's like a meditation app. Here's a a song I've side listening to." Like just stuff stuff stuff stuff. You know, young guys like nodding out about stuff. And uh that was a big thing for a long time on the show. So, I used to get one of the common questions I used to get was, "What's the number one life hack from all of the episodes that you ever did?" Sleep with your phone outside of your bedroom Yeah. Is an instant 10% increase in quality of life. >> Oh. There's never a single person who's actually done it that didn't have remarkable results. It just doesn't happen. >> It's wild. >> Yeah. >> It's wild. Sleep with your phone outside of your bedroom, people. Come on. >> 100%. What um Why'd you stop doing it? >> Uh but the I moved to America, and the boys that I did it with it felt kind of sacred between me and them. >> Oh, cool. >> I I I do >> the band breaks up, and you're like, "We're not doing it." >> We're not We're not performing that song anymore. Yeah. Um we do it every year at Christmas. So, we go back and catch up when I'm usually back in the UK. And um I'll do it with with the boys and doing it every 3 months was kind of interesting, but doing it every year is really interesting. It's like the last 12 months, like what's the good [ __ ] So, and I picked up stuff that I've kept on with like Opal screen time app. >> Mhm. >> Um I can I picked that up in a Christmas episode 2 years ago? A long like a good good while ago. Dean was filming. And um I still use that now. >> Good. >> So much of the stuff that's a part of my life. It like the um Manta eye mask that I love, which I think is great. It's so very expensive. >> Yeah. >> It's so expensive. But uh on this one. Um >> Triple click the lock button on your phone. >> To turn it to red. Yeah. >> Oh yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, the accessibility mode thing. >> Sure, sure, sure. Yeah. Do you think if you turned around right now and went back into promoting and DJing knowing all the tools and stuff you have now. >> Uh-huh. >> Ask yourself, how much more sustainable would it be? It's still not going to be what it is cuz >> Dude, it's >> Like how much more? Or is it tank? >> Really, the the big mover here is getting in at 3:00 in the morning. >> Yeah, yeah. >> It's just so unreal. And I'm 37 now. So [ __ ] it is It was tough when I was 24. >> Yeah. >> And um And there was a period to when the end of my club promoting career where I'd leave the front door of the nightclub after I'd set everything up. We had a big team of people that were going to make sure everything was operating. I'd go back into my car across the street and watch Alain de Botton School of Life videos on like Nietzsche or [ __ ] >> Yeah. It just wasn't there. >> Emerson or whatever. I just I wasn't in it anymore. No. >> Yeah. >> And uh I loved it and I was really proud of what I'd built. But Yeah, I It was just time for me to let it go. And uh it it took a good bit of conviction for me to be like, okay, I'm going to talk to people on the internet for a job. [ __ ] All right, let's go for this. Let's do it. And turned out all right. >> Uh before you started podcasting um were you were your interests so well versed as they are now? Or were you you were myopic? This is something that came out of >> Yeah. Very very single-minded. Um I'd like >> So, you didn't even know this was there? >> I knew the curiosity was there, but I didn't know it was as broad. Um so, you know, there was a period I remember in second year of uni I a couple of weeks distinctly where I remember not going on nights out with the guys cuz I wanted to stay in and read bodybuilding.com forum. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. >> And I just wanted to learn stuff and there was stories and I was reading Juji Mufu's blog when I was like 16 and he had this blog post called water, the preferred drink of hardcore people. And it was him talking about how he weaned himself off of soda as a like teen like late teenager. I was 16 reading that stuff. I just I was interested, but I didn't understand oh, you're interested in everything as opposed to I want to get big and then I'll get girls or I want to like whatever build a business. I'm going to learn about business. It's like oh, there's an infinite amount of interesting stuff out there. So, yeah, it's it's strange like taste is something you can build and curate and refine. So, it can become broader and it can become more distilled and uh kind of interesting. >> When you interact with people I know how I am. Is it the same in the sense that I can have a actually rewarding conversation with somebody if they have some passion in something that I know nothing about. >> Oh, yeah. >> But if not like I can't hide it on my face and my wife is like constantly on me about it. She's like look like you got to stop. Like you you can't. Like that's my aunt or whatever. So, it's just like I can't I can't I don't even pretend. But if somebody has a deep passion, like it doesn't matter. >> Yeah. Warhammer 40K >> And I'm just like oh, [ __ ] tell me more about tulips. Like I don't even care. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> You feel like you have the same >> I Yeah. >> experience? >> I think anybody that loves anything is going to be pretty interesting because it's just something that we have to kind of fascination we have with anybody that's gone deep on whatever it is. >> Why? Is it the Is it the knowledge or is it the Like I suddenly indirectly appreciate you because you tried really hard. >> I think Yeah, maybe it's probably a signal. I mean, I could try and speak from an evolutionary psychology background. The This person is demonstrating a reliable signal of authenticity, conscientiousness, industriousness, commitment, motivation, consistency, uh specific knowledge. Um but something like more um like literally in terms of your how you experience it. So, that might be like the ultimate, but the proximate would be more like um this person knows so much so deeply about this topic that weird niche ideas I have that I've always wanted to know. >> Uh available to me. So, I was talking to Johnny uh before I went on stage. My old housemate was the uh Newcastle Falcons rugby team junior academy physio and then he became the senior academy physio and then he became the seconds physio and then he started working with the first team. And we were going on a half-hour loop walk from our house around this field and then back. And I would ask him just like how was the game last night? And I would get like the most in-depth like well, such and such like one of the um [ __ ] like uh wingers has injured this thing in his ankle. So, we're currently trying to work on this. And I was like enthralled even though I didn't know half of the words that he was using, but it was just someone who's so passionate about what they're doing. He was fired up. And I just It was like an audio book. It was like a weekly physiotherapy audio book. Well, there's two ways to be a person that people want to talk to. You can be interesting or interested. And I think most people try to be interesting. It's way easier actually to be interested. It's way easier for me to be like I want to know everything about what's happening with the world of sleep. >> Right. >> And it is an opportunity for you to think about things in maybe a different way, but it actually excuses me from having to be interesting. >> Totally. >> I don't have to have anything going on. And also I can be kind of lazy. It's a very selfish way to have a conversation. You're like hey regale me. Tell me a spin me a yarn. Tell me a tell me a tale. Tell me about the >> Entertain me. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on peasant. Dance monkey dance. >> Entertain me. >> Yeah. Um Are we done? What do we are we done? >> We're done. >> Okay, can we go and lie by a pool? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh ladies and gentlemen that was Dr. Andy Galpin of Dr. Andy Galpin film. Uh Absolute rest .com? >> Yep. >> And >> Uh vitality blueprint. My name of course general website andygalpin.com. >> When's your podcast coming back? >> Uh season 3 will come out early 2026. Probably January if we're going to start recording. >> You're doing seasons of 10? >> Yeah. Uh 10 to 12. >> Mhm. >> Or so. So that's like I don't know how y'all do >> Three >> all this content. Three a week? >> For five and a half years. >> I had no I mean I don't listen to your podcast I never have. So >> So the best were you invited on the episode that you featured on? >> I was on your show. >> Ah yeah. >> You remember? >> Anyway um on that note of connection and deep intimacy we'll see you next time. Bye.