A Serious Talk With My Assistant | Losing Weight

i'm gonna sit down and i'm just gonna start this episode because i set this camera up and the first thing graham says can i look at that angle because it doesn't look like it's set up right how can you tell just by looking at the camera it's closer than usual how many times jack does alex set up that camera and the shot's not good i don't want to get in between you two what would you ask me like 50 50. okay so i'll say how many times you set it up and graham has a problem with that and that's about 95 percent of the time how many times do you agree with majority what there you go it's like a coin toss it's like i like to leave enough space on that camera to crop in a tiny bit so we can adjust and post because inevitably one of you guys always shifts okay it happens and it's not only you guys jeremy when he sits there for millennial money same thing happens so somebody always shifts and i like to leave just a little bit more it looks good what you know it's funny i remember the time one of the first podcasts we did where alex uploaded it and i looked at the screen and it was like bright yellow remember that oh yeah yeah yeah we color graded it it would color great but it still wasn't no okay that was and we asked alex like does this look good you're like it's fine when so basically he's saying he now questions your judgment from that one encounter when was that we are at jeremy's house playing poker because okay here's what happened guys it was the whatever the first uh episode of the impulsive uh when they went to brit england was yeah they did it in true geordie studio and they have like this very like washed out kind of look and so you guys were like hey can we do kind of something similar so i so i shot in a different profile picture and i edited it and it looked very color graded because that's what you referenced that it didn't look like that though what are you trying to do it looks like honestly i will say i i really liked the final product i think it looked pretty good yeah it looked as though we were under a lizard's heat lamp like that's what it looks like we practically are dude graham leaves this room at like 80 degrees okay it gets crazy right now it's probably like 77 and it's only gonna get hotter it doesn't get any see through here but anyway the reason we started this uh episode here is because jack and i got into a bit of a scuffle yes a scuffle uh because of facebook yeah now we did mark zuckerberg yeah we should be posting these episodes maybe clipped up on facebook fake facebook is a good platform for video creators and uh we want to take that route so i had a guy who's all lined up ready to go jack says no i've been talking to this guy for months he's going to do facebook and he's going to do snapchat for us i said okay we if we get it all under one umbrella facebook and snapchat makes sense okay fine uh but a week has gone by jack and we're nowhere closer to getting facebook done meanwhile i have my guy and i said i just want to go with my guy he he matched the offer he's good he'll get on it tomorrow what's the hold up jack so in my defense you initially worked with your guy on your main channel because you're posting on facebook and then you ended up terminating that contract false i like how he just stopped correcting balls because i don't need to keep going on correct what happened it was through a company he left that company within a few weeks of me signing on i kept with that company for four six months and i discontinued because i wasn't seeing an roi this guy left this guy comes back and says hey your page is actually doing really well i just noticed it i left to do my own thing would you consider reposting on facebook i could help you um and so i went with him directly there we go i was totally under the impression that he was working because graham would say this is the guy that initially did my stuff i didn't know he left that company real time yep we do work on snapchat as well my guy does both and he can start tomorrow so what's the hold of jack my main thing is the guy that i was talking to i've been talking to for a while yes he was slow but i knew he also had some internal issues that he was kind of working out at the moment but he did tell me the other people that he works with and there are some massive creators is it bad if i say their names maybe i don't know i think i'm sure it's fine it's probably fine yeah he does like ksi he does uh no jumper adam that we had on here and no jumper was doing like six figures per month with their podcast on facebook so i knew that this guy checked out adam's a cool guy he was basically you know giving the stamp of approval on this guy adam from no jumper and i just figured this guy he's really good yes he may be slow but i know that the work that he does is guaranteed effective and i remember your initial impression of this guy when he started working with him i didn't know that he left the company but it didn't work out that first time you did it and slowly over time your videos started to do better but initially they were really struggling and that's why i thought you know we could choose this guy sure he's a little slower but he has guaranteed quality and he also does snapchat i didn't know your guy did snapchat which we just found out right just found out real time um so i just figured we go even if this route is slower we have basically guaranteed success because of the big clients you know what i don't like about this guy is that he's not on it he's not following up with you he doesn't want it bad enough where he's like jack where's the contract we've this has been going on for months i know because you ask him every time every time we come to do this yeah before the show guys graham's asking yeah so and so this isn't working i wouldn't go that far because graham has only really been pressing this for the past week in few weeks one of the main delays doing this was the fact that i i requested a contract from this guy and he sent it over to graham and i i checked it out i like i sent it over and i think i texted you actually multiple times hey check out the contract it should be in your inbox and then you lagged on it and it ended up taking like weeks until we finally had we forgot about it and then we revisited it i like the scuffle so he says weeks what did he say he sent the contract over um i forget what happened it may have been a week not weeks maybe a week but anyway i came back with some changes we we talked about the changes we came to an agreement on that and then this guy had internal problems i'm sure it's fine ever since you came back with the changes has been about it's only been a week and a half right yeah but ever since the changes we're like we're good to go let's just get started on it right and it's been a week since getting started on it i agree i think it's starting to get into that point where like hey man if you aren't urgent on this we're gonna go to this other guy my only logic was initially when you worked with this guy i thought it was him and the guys no it was just the guys right the organization and it wasn't working out initially but this guy has really good clients and guaranteed success so i figured i like what i've heard from my guy and he has big clients too but is that he was the guy who was really making this happen within the company and he went off to do his own thing uh i think the company that i was with was good but maybe they weren't on it like this guy is um and also he noticed my page got monetized six months later like after i cancelled uh the whole contract with them they never reached back out and said like hey your page is monetized he just said um he saw what was oh he saw the engagement video and said from that video he went to like look me up on facebook or something saw the page noticed it was monetized on his end and gave me a heads up like hey you should turn on monetization so my guy's on it yeah and i think we got to make a decision and my guy did snapchat let's just do it let's just say yes to this guy and get started tomorrow what do you say jack i would say honestly i would say wait until 9am tomorrow if this guy does not get back to me with one final thing then i'm fine going with this guy i think it's already gone a week i if if if it were up to me i just said let's go with this guy my thing is that probably that guy's really good but he has such big clients that right now an unmonetized page starting off from the very beginning is not a priority for him that makes sense so my guy he is incentivized to like build up with the entire brand so it could be my main channel it could be the podcast now now i didn't know he did snapchat now i want to do snapchat with him yeah so it would help to have everything under the umbrella he's also month to month so if we're not happy with this guy we could always change month to month that's true i'm actually down to get started month to month should we do it do we have yes let's get started right now month to month see what happens because realistically if this guy doesn't i mean i texted him he didn't get back to me since we're over here we're having our work meeting and we're filming it and we like breaking up stuff that jack hasn't done i figured i'd bring up another thing uh maybe a year ago oh yeah about a year ago jack why are you laughing stuff that jack hasn't yeah what do you think i'm gonna bring up that you haven't done jack that you mentioned about a year ago got my free stock on public link down below in the description yeah you just gotta go to public.com oh you mean like how they can follow me on instagram and alex underscore photographers nobody wants to say no uh about a year ago graham said he wanted to work on graham stefan and espanyol no no no no that was something where i was like you know what i want to get started on that that sounds really cool oh you did yeah yeah but realistically i've understood that's not that great of an idea because yeah i figured that people that speak spanish or live in other countries that predominantly speak spanish probably would not i don't think graham's content would catch as much because they all have different rules and regulations in these countries and sure us does have a pretty decent amount of spanish-speaking people i just think it'd be as great of a hit as something that's entertainment rather than or sorry yeah entertainment rather than education what are your thoughts on that i agree with that okay yeah the thing is uh i think 70 of my audience is us-based and when i'm talking about like a roth ira or credit cards to get or you know getting a free stock on public you can't do that in some other countries so it doesn't make a lot of sense i still think there's a market for that because growing up in a predominantly hispanic neighborhood where people don't know about that i think there needs to be education but i think that there's a market for a specific type of person who can speak fluently in spanish to i agree i agree i mean if someone yeah if someone wants to do it i'd be open to it if they do all the work on their end um i'd be open to it but i just don't think it's worth uh worth the time yeah gotcha yeah but you know what we gotta we got a guest on here we're gonna bring in macy and stir up some uh stir up some drama right jack yep jack's heart is beating now oh my gosh yeah but you know what hold that thought because we gotta say a huge thank you to our sponsor grammarly working in such a fast-paced environment like this means it's super important to always be communicating extremely concisely effectively and quickly which is why i am so happy that grammarly our sponsor reached out to help grimly is an all-in-one writing tool that helps you communicate clearly and effectively even when you're short on time we've been using grammarly for a while now and it's saved us countless hours on time that 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already wanted to chime in on the last thing uh speaking for like the other countries thing we were just in canada and a lot of people were like oh yeah we kind of know who you are but we don't watch you because it's not applicable because the laws are different even in canada yeah it was atrocious i went out in public and atrocious barely got ranked holy cow barely atrocious atrocious it was devastating that isn't it we got to build our audience in canada more yeah that was unacceptable in canada we were like yeah we pretty much only watch when you talk about like bitcoin because nothing else really applies that's true actually yeah bitcoin content could be universal that's true good point but a lot of the investing even with real estate in canada the whole structure is a lot different spanish bitcoin channel i'm happy with that i mean they have to be pretty quick on it though because some of the bitcoin videos are so like urgent the turnover would have to be like 24 hours because afterwards the price is going to be totally different all right well i don't think we brought you on here to talk about bitcoin we brought you on here because you guys recently went on a vacation and i know that's something that you want to do quite often but graham's pretty apprehensive when it comes to vacationing because he thinks we should buckle down and focus on the business now what do you guys think about that is that a soft spot within the relationship not trying to stir up anything first soft spot like like that's not really that wouldn't be a soft spot that wouldn't be a soft spot that would be a point what do you think mace you first well i mean you know i get really stressed out like i will keep over committing myself to things and i get really stressed out so i don't think that's my place to say like we should be traveling all the time i do want to start traveling a little bit more but like you even know for canada i was getting myself super stressed out because i was throwing around my streaming schedule then it's just like i mean like that was tricky for me and to try to keep my stress levels down i was trying really hard yeah macy met my uh canadian family for the first time ever how was that yeah do they do they have accents no i think they do drink a lot of fear it's certain words like certain words some people like oh you can't tell until you say about because i feel like you have to do that with your face too to go yeah a boot and like it is about i'm like oh yeah when you get glorious singers and they sing in english they always say about or out so i'm like why do you why when you don't think i mean people copy accents and music all the time so yeah but yeah so you don't want a vacation right i'm good on vacations for right now yeah what was that three days uh four actually oh that was a full four day vacation two full days of travel yeah and yeah the traffic you wanna know the funny part graham and i worked ahead uh so that he can go on vacation and we got probably like four videos ahead and graham leaves on friday which he used one of the videos that we posted but then on monday it was the fourth of july so he didn't post so we got ahead and we didn't need to get ahead and now we're ahead and graham prefers it that way yeah now i want to stay ahead i actually got a video uh filmed today so i could continue staying the same length ahead and i want to keep that like buffer it feels so relaxing to know i have like four videos done feels so good so now that we've talked about points of contention let's talk about points of the opposite of that okay now we're gonna yeah now regarding yeah i guess i guess uncontention is that even a word i don't know no it's not but that's funny contention points of love okay so contention contention already is a negative so i guess to be attention uncontention uncontentious uncontentioned yeah so between you two because i know something recently just happened the proposal we haven't brought you one and discussed it yet i'm getting so confused about it because we've talked about it on so many things at this point i know graham was like i thought we talked about it on your channel yes it was it was my channel but i thought we did it here too but i just have to know so confused did you cry yeah yeah i did yeah after like we were getting off the the ferris wheel like is my mascara running and he's like no you're fine but uh yeah a little bit like i didn't like like or anything like that but yeah out loud crying yeah i think is the video that we did together we were talking about this and i think we somehow made that noise she went nuts she was like trying to put her snoot in graham's mouth yeah you do that she'll go just get like right in your face she'll want to put her face in your mouth all right so so you cried and were you surprised or did you expect it to happen i mean like because we discussed doing our prenup first definitely i knew it was coming at some point because we had gotten our prenup done so i'm like all right this is kind of an expensive process he's not gonna just do it and be like i'm gonna break up with her in like two months from now or you know i'm gonna do this but i don't see any kind of a future with her sort of thing um so i was expecting that it was gonna happen like sometime but um i don't know i don't know how to explain this properly it's like you know how in the spring you're like oh you know it can rain in the spring but it can also rain in fall on the random fall day so i felt like we'd look in the spring be like there's a higher chance of rain on any day during the spring i kind of felt that way about our anniversary and like there's probably a higher chance he would do it on our anniversary but i don't necessarily mean or think that he's going to do it on this day and just recognize that there was a chance more than like a random tuesday while we're sitting at home looking like little trash pandas all right that makes sense what else do you want to know jack back to points of contention so what is your no okay uh actually maybe not i actually kind of want to know i think it's kind of funny uh what is one thing you like about each other and what's one thing you guys think the other person can work on oh [Music] jack what are you trying to do here are you trying to stir up some stuff i just think the drama people like it i like it i'll go i could go you want me to go first yeah i like engage yeah i like how caring and selfless may see it she'll put she'll put so many people before herself she really cares about the other person really deeply and i think that's a really important quality that is is really comforting and really nice i and yeah i agree with that i came over here for graham's pool day and i forgot a towel and i requested a cow from graham and graham was like you forgot to tell oh jack come on making a huge deal because i forgot a towel and then i asked macy i told you i said hey i used to tell and you're like oh that's totally fine just toss it in here i'll just do it with my next load it'll be no big deal seriously whenever you need a towel just take one of ours it's totally fine so i agree yeah she's definitely she's very sharing and compassionate yeah you know what cracks me up about the towels too i have bought in every single one of those pool towels in there and you're like yeah i'm very very so i'm surprised you guys are gonna use all 30 towels well it's nice to have them you never know i bought that many towels that way if someone came over they could just grab a towel and use it i don't know i i think we gotta use them sparingly that's yeah right it was put on my credit card i don't care it's like i i do all the laundry i pay for the detergent like i don't care well thank you and when i should tell like what's that gonna do to my load of laundry really even like five thank you macy i appreciate that yeah graham now you go one thing you think she can work on maybe uh i would say uh i would sometimes the organization there there's things that maybe are on the floor for a little bit too long uh things that could be put away it's odd because some areas like the laundry room i've never seen a room more organized than that like everything is labeled pantry yes in the beginning of the pantry but we've all kind of like had our fair share with the pantry so it's like it's not going to stay like that forever uh but then other means you know it could be just you know tidy but i'm not i'm not perfect either i i'm not you know a saint when it comes to that but i will go through every now and then just like i habitually like every time macy leaves she'll come back and like every everything is like made and tidied up and i just i get on a cleaning spree all right macy it's your turn what's one thing you like about graham and one thing you don't like with graham i really like how passionate he is about things he has so many interests and so many things he's really passionate about and it's really inspiring to be around like just as a person when graham's into something he's in like a hundred percent and that was something like even link with our relationship was really cool to see in the beginning he was just like this is my girlfriend we had been like we'd gone on like four dates at this point and you were like we're filming a video for my second channel together for the algorithm yeah and like he's really into but like even like with how he is about youtube the fish tank just you know anything he's passionate about he's a very busy person but he will find the time for and i think that's something that's just super inspiring and something super cool and something that's honestly like one of my favorite things about him um things i don't like i think sometimes which is so funny because i'm like it's not meaning for this to be on the same vein as what you said sometimes i think you your brain you get caught up in things and then you just don't have any kind of an organization system or you can't follow an organization system and it drives you nuts oh this is me putting things in the wrong drawers that's what this is about probably like um like and the rare occasion you unload the dishwasher he'll like put all the forks and spoons and the same thing even though we have like all the organizations like sometimes the big spoons end up in like here and then over here oh it's just different little things like that i feel like i'm always kind of fixing where i'm like where where's the the thinking in this no there's some of them i don't i've never seen this thing before and i've just like put it in a drawer i've never seen it before yeah it's some random cooking stuff i've never i've never seen it before that's very descriptive i know i don't know it's like it's like a strainer of some sort or like some contraption i don't know see he'll say that and be like i've never seen it and then he'll go and he'll make himself pasta while i'm gone he knows where to find it oh yeah i don't know i don't know they'll be like man where did this end up over here why is this here and i don't know it's just this it's there at this point though i'm like somebody is doing this because this is a constant battle i have with the kitchen i know sometimes it's like the cleaners sometimes but like there's stuff i find sometimes i know it's you sometimes i don't know who it is blame it on alex it's probably alex i found a knife one time in one of my pots and pans graham i don't know i don't i i don't know who did it graham doesn't even know what a knife is i don't even use knives don't really use a fork for everything basically same yeah that is crazy person talk so you're telling me if you had something that needs to be cut like a potato or a steak you know what i do actually as i stab it as i stab it i just eat it like a popsicle it's like bite off it like a chicken breast will stab like this that's actually what kelsey does yeah um but i have a better system i use a fork but then i use the fork sideways to cut things oh i've done that too yeah but only if it's like cuttable that way though chicken can be fish could be but not steak you're a cave i man eat with my fingers i would honestly i'm i'm 100 with you on that but i know it's not a sight other people probably enjoy seeing as if i'm like mangling yeah yeah i mean i'm fine with graham like when it's just him and i but when other people i'm here like okay stop doing that or like if we're out at a restaurant i'm like okay like we can be uncivilized at home and i use the fork to pick my teeth afterwards do you really no i'm kidding no he just gets in there with his fingers yeah yeah it's super deep in there yeah that one long nail that sees everything alex i have to have a little moment in brag so switch back to your camera i figured out how to get that to disappear on my camera and it took me like five minutes no no i know how to make it disappear oh i was so excited no you want that to stay here yeah that's on purpose yeah i hooked up my streaming set to my camera so yeah pretty good yeah like that else you want to know well to be honest i i don't want to cena's i don't want to be seen as that guy who just like instigates things you know what i mean and creates drama out of nothing but you know since you're asking me um it just seems like you guys went a little easy on each other or if you didn't go easy on each other your guys's relationship must be perfect and i'm not saying it's not perfect because perfection can still have flaws but it's gotten good it's gotten really good oh it's gone so where were we before i think at the beginning of our relationship just there was a lot of adjustments both of us had to make and we learned how to make them together and so i feel like we've really worked on a relationship together like we didn't have this perfect relationship from the beginning but like there was no one else i'd rather work on on it and i admit i'm not an easy person to both live with or even work with like i i understand uh that's that's you guys have to put up with a lot and i'm not always simple so uh i feel like this is like am i supposed to be like no no no no you guys could chime in like i i i don't think i work that well with other people really i would say select i would say select people yeah graham is literally like the human embodiment of a cat and i think i am more of the human embodiment of a dog you are so it was yeah so it was definitely an adjustment you definitely very much liked your alone time and because i was so used to having like you know i was one of three and there was always somebody home and stuff and always having somebody around something i'm constantly interacting with that was like a big thing for us to work on because i wanted like hanging out constantly and you were like i will see you on the weekends even though we live in the same house yeah yeah for me because i've always just like i've loved my alone time and like just i love getting home and just like peace just it's space it's just like mentally i need that sort of like calmness to like to think and to get through the thoughts and so like but i think that was a big adjustment yeah i think it's hard for people that don't spend a lot of time with you people that just see you on occasion to understand that that's who you truly are yeah and not that you're just some standoffish person who like doesn't care about them or interact with them right that's just who you truly are you enjoy being by yourself it's not like you don't like them that's why you're not talking with them yeah so i think that's something that is hard for people that don't truly know you to understand and also it's funny you mentioned that you're hard to work with and i remember in the beginning it was a lot more challenging but now since i know you very well i'm able to to definitely change the way that like i talk to you to be in an engaging way for graeme i try to condense the information that i'm telling you into the fewest amount of words possible yeah because if you drone with graham at all tunes out immediately tunes out yeah no i i've learned and the longer we've been together the more blood they've been i'm like he'll you know he'll you'll see his mind go and grab someone that like as soon as his brain goes this is what he looks like it's pretty much oh my god that's so active but you also notice graham will start going he'll start going yeah yeah yep and it just starts agreeing with everything that you're saying like you could say anything it'll be like yep grandma i'm gone for two years i'm going to thailand yep okay all right so so what i've started doing is the longer we've gotten together the more blunt we've gotten i'm like so yeah by the way you know i'm pregnant yeah it it's not yours and he'll be like yep yep well but because then i know she's joking and i'm like what did i just say and then he's like no but sometimes it'll be like you're a friend and i'm like no no there's been a few times you've been like and i'm like and also another thing is you're extremely blunt to a point where i'm like i it really surprises me because you call yourself a person who is not confrontational but at the same time you're very comfortable saying you do not like something for example like the alex will work hours on the thumbnail he'll present it to you and you'll be like nope or all with the patreon like i drafted up the entire thing i designed it and i was like and for some reason that was already my responsibility and i went in i did all the work and everything i presented it to you like i don't like that i don't like that change that change that moment graham you gave me the authority to make these decisions in the first place and it it's fine i totally get it but it's something that i have to understand when i start doing stuff like that korean's gotten worse at this i would say because of because of me because that's how i am i'm pretty stupid you're both very very particular and very uh blunt things i i like to say i'm like nice blunt but yeah if somebody does something that i have no issues with confrontation but i think i like like normal normal levels of issues i won't like go out of my way and avoid confrontation but if graham's like zoning out i'll be like hey are you i'll like put my hand between him and the phone i'm like i feel like you're not listening to me when you're on your phone he's like oh yeah i'm not but at the end of the day i think that that's a heck of a lot better than not being blunt blunt and like hiding how you feel and i honestly i really admire it and that's something that i definitely try to do in my own life because if i'm gonna act like i like something to something to someone who's telling me something i clearly don't i think we're just going nowhere with that conversation because we're not we're not you know what i mean i'm not being honest with my intention she's not being honest you know i mean yeah and there's no progression so i think it's i think it's a great way to communicate i respect it yeah i'm not like one of those like oh you know i'm not me and i'm just blunt type of girls out there i think i'm definitely one of the nice ones because like if somebody came to me with like a thumbnail like that it'd be like you know i can tell how much work you put on it i do like the compliment sandwich you know yeah but like you tell how much work you put on it but i don't really like this aspect can you change it but like you know you worked really hard on this and i can tell you're getting better and i always kind of do the like blunt yeah graham is just and i'll find like no carbs no carbs i'll find like two things i like with it and then the one i dislike and usually that is true with most things it's like there's not like there's not something that somebody will come with to me and be like oh you know i hate this whole absolute thing so i try to point out the things that i like when yeah and i'm like there we go it's a blunt assessment because i'm bluntly telling you what i like and also what i don't like and that i don't know i think that's what's made me such a good like personal trainer with people too is like when you know i had i had a client who just who was able to do a pull-up and then she's like how was that i'm like you know what you started off you couldn't even get your arms to contract so that's amazing that you're able to do it just next time try holding you know try holding your body a little bit more still your legs are wiggling it's probably making a little bit more difficult have you seen people when they're really straining they're kind of kicking their legs and stuff to get them i see graham do that all the time he almost flies like a helicopter yeah a little bit so i'll just like you know try not doing that might make it a little easier because you're probably strange i feel like a lot of the times it's harder when your legs are kicking all over the place because in your arms you're trying to figure out how to stabilize for very rapid movement um and let you know and then end off with like but i'm so proud of you like getting a pull-up's really hard and so that i feel like is what's made because it's like you leave them feeling good but also with like it's the compliment sandwich yeah and i really love using the compliment sandwich and like i'm really careful with it too not to say anything that i don't believe like i won't just like throw out a compliment that i'm like i don't believe this at all like i will say genuinely like that's amazing you were able to get a pull-up and you know we got it in like a month it's incredible that is so fast but i won't like sit there and like hype somebody up on that or give them compliments if i don't truly believe them either you guys are gonna have to teach me how to do a compliment sandwich in real life because um yes i'm blunt at work but i work with graham and jack so it works but i think i'm too blunt in real life so i don't think so at all maybe not never you know like here's what happens and let me explain so uh let's take my like mother-in-law for example um she'll say i think you need or i think that you should do x and i'll be like i think that's stupid like what give us an example okay just like not being nice that's being like what did she because you're around us all the time that's just the way you we all communicate you'll be like do you think this is stupid i'll think yeah yeah i don't know what she asked okay okay no no so i think i might have mentioned this before um she asked you to put on hand sanitizer guys oh my god so uh like for example one she she wanted her uh her best friend's husband to like mary kelsey and i and i and i i didn't say it was stupid i said i think he's a little weird you know what that's fine i'm gonna sit here as the annoying fiancee here and say it's your dang wedding who you want to officiate it officiate it okay i mean i agree you should let your whoever you want to officiate officiate it but at the same time i wouldn't just say what's their relation to the stepmom or the mother-in-law it's just her best friend's husband it's like so that's someone who she obviously probably thinks pretty fondly of and i definitely wouldn't just say i think that they're weird because i just think that's like feel like you're attacking this person okay okay so let me give you a different example so like um a family member recently bought a house right and like my first instinct is like like how much you pay for it and like i get these weird looks like i shouldn't be asking this i'm like oh how much you buy from oh yeah you overpaid big time well like i don't know how do you do well maybe how do you deal with that grandma you feel out this tweet you don't know like how much but that's what i'm trying to say like i i sometimes i feel like i don't have a filter and i don't think yeah but you could pry you could just say like uh you know were there a lot of offer no you could say like were there a lot of offers like i would like did you have to pay over asking on it honestly i would just check zillow that's what i would've known what's the address zestimate comes in [Laughter] is this accurate sometimes if i catch myself doing that because i'm around these two so much and all the finance guys is that if i say that to someone i can see they're uncomfortable be like oh you know i'm so sorry uh i work with like a lot of people in the finance industry and they just kind of ask and i'm sorry if that made you uncomfortable kind of like oh just because i'm curious working around people who are in the finance industry and usually like when you say that then people are like oh okay yeah i would say most of the times it's pretty excusable i don't think that you're the type of person that can mess up so horribly that you actually destroy a relationship so jack by the way before i forget i wanted to ask you this would you be willing to become what it takes to officiate a wedding yes yes yes yes i was actually just going to bring that out to you are you actually just waiting for yeah graham was going to ask that yeah because macy brought it up i was like that's a funny idea i was like either jack has to be the ring bearer or he has to be the first i call him ring bear yeah he could be the ring bearer but we were going to think anthony too anthony would be phone but but around for so much for both of us that it just kind of makes sense i also knew both of you guys before the relationship even started you would do you're actually there you're probably the only person that can say that yeah all right i'm good with that it'll be funny let's go i would love to all right all right oh my god you got to get a haircut though well i don't know about that what does the bride say do you think i should get a haircut i just do your hair i don't mind it long i just think see that doesn't that can switch the camera that like you have hat hair all right that looks bad it does i'll agree with you on that yeah just as long as you do it just kidding it works yeah i'm like i'd be lucky if i look like him all right so jack speaking of weddings uh i got to bring this up because i think it's a highly requested topic and i figured i'd bring it up on the podcast we should have another first date on the podcast here as a midweek you know it doesn't have to be you know full thing but having a first date you know and uh just seeing how it goes what are your thoughts okay so we've done two things similar to this before we had a girl on that was supposed to be my date and we also did a quadruple me like blind dating for women okay and both of them ended up with all the people in the comment section she's like what's going on with this girl how is she what's up with her and i feel like that's not necessarily like i just don't like answering those questions you know what i mean because most of the time it doesn't go anywhere i just don't like answering those questions i'm going to make a i want walked 100 miles for a tinder date oh yes explain that jack oh yeah that's a good point well honestly most of that was the fact that i wanted to walk 100 miles but if i was going to attach to a piece of content it had to be towards a tinder date and i feel like that we have so many other good potential guests opportunities rather than a girl that's coming on here for a date plus my channel would get like 10 000 views the iced coffee will get more hopefully so i don't know i just don't like answering those questions we should let's say you don't get those questions would you do it what if we did if if i could basically snap all of like the tangential um effects of a girl coming on here i would do it yes i just don't like it if i do meet a girl in real life and she looks me up or i am talking to someone on bumble and she looks me up you know what i mean i think it's actually that she sees that i i have it's a for content it's just it's we make it clear from the beginning it's just for fun i think jack needs to date like another content creator i think that would be right it would work really well i agree with that alex you know what let's talk about your weight loss journey how's that going so far yeah of course so uh if you guys didn't know i'm on a weight loss journey jack is helping me out and we started uh jack how long has it been i actually don't probably not three three three and a half four weeks all right so the first two weeks absolute hell um but now we're rocking and rolling i feel very sustainable sending jack pictures of my food and i have a couple of things that you know i kind of fall back to make so one of the things in the morning i like to make is like a spinach and turkey omelet um that's kind of one of my go-to's and i've been just alternating dinners um and yeah what what questions do you have so the main thing is i remember we went and got sushi this was probably like two weeks ago and you kind of were disagreeing with alex's weight loss methods and i've faced a lot of people that are saying you shouldn't be doing this uh jack or this bad advice and and i've never proclaimed to be like a nutritionist expert whatsoever but i do like to think that whatever alex is doing currently is probably better than what he was doing previously with like the the snacking and everything like that so i want to know what your perspective is on this as someone who knows a december about it so my whole issue was that you put him on calories based off of where his maintenance calories were not knowing what he was already eating you don't want to like cut someone's calories like let's say even he's eating double what he should be you don't want to cut out half of what someone's eating down to where they should be at you want to slowly work them down not necessarily do a big cup my whole issue was you don't really know what you should be doing diet wise for him because you have no idea where he was starting why you should have had him tracking why do you do four days why is that bad so that's bad because it can put your body into survival mode if you cut out too many calories too quickly this is an issue you see like it's really like unfortunate obviously i'm not a doctor when i'm speaking about this but um you see this a lot with people who struggle with eating disorders is that they'll gain a lot of weight back really fast because their body when they start eating again because their body all of a sudden is like oh we have stuff and like it'll hold on to um it'll hoard it yeah it'll hoard it that's that's exactly the word i was looking for um there's also that and you don't want to mess up your metabolism like messing up your metabolism is awful trying to fix that is a mess and so you just want to make sure you're keeping the metabolism up one of the ways to do that is working out so always in addition to nutrition i think you should be exercising i get like if somebody's starting a new nutrition plan and an exercise plan if they know themselves they know that they have a hard time sticking to it you definitely i get not starting both at first i think that was why you wanted to kind of wait with alex and i i get that mentality i think he has at the point though where he's been consistent with it for three four weeks now that he could start working out but yeah it's mainly just you don't want to mess up metabolism and you don't want to put your body into it wouldn't that eventually just balance out like let's say initially it's a shock it goes into survival mode but then if he's doing it for like a month then wouldn't that just like set the bar then you don't really know but it's it's just dangerous and you don't know exactly how your body's going to respond to it so just it's hard because even if you go off of his maintenance calories when i jump on a scale my maintenance calories don't really account for everything i do it's like i have a scale that tells me where my maintenance calories are at but cool i'm working out like hours and hours a week and that's more calories on top of that that i'm burning so you could also be putting him into a really really deep deficit right so my whole logic is we knew alex was fairly sedentary outside of like you know yeah coming here and whatnot um and i just figured although everyone has all these scientific methods and all these ways you can get someone to lose weight and do it safely and whatnot i figure anything that we're trying to do now is going to be better than what he was doing previously because he was telling me that like sometimes he would go and he would sit with like a huge bag of chips not the fun size and he would eat like half of it and that's probably like that's there's no nutritional value sure it's a lot of calories and i understand like setting off your metabolic rate or metabolism or whatever by like decreasing the calories i still think it's better just to eat clean foods to the point of being full and you'll be okay the problem with clean foods is like a banana is not even 100 calories so i can eat a whole banana and be full but it's not really if i have only 100 calories in the morning i'm not eating what i need to for the day but if you eat until you're ready for full wouldn't that jet generally kind of average out healthier foods make you feel full faster so you end up cutting calories down really fast just by eating cleaner that was something that before i started doing all this and like i did a contest at my gym and worked with the nutritionist and everything we looked at what i was eating and i was severely under eating because i was thinking oh well i'm full because i was eating a lot healthier but did it lead to any actual impact i wasn't able to gain muscle mass and it was very fatigued and i had to take iron supplements so that that was my like i didn't mess up my metabolism thank goodness but like i couldn't also build the muscle like i was wanting to because i wasn't giving my body enough to be able to build muscle and repair properly so i was getting fatigued for a lot longer i was yeah just it wasn't it wasn't fun definitely then when they put me on they had me track and they were like you're way it's just tracking for three days it's not like he is 600 pounds and they're worried about like organs shutting down or like he's not having the same issues that tammy from my 600 pound life is having where she was just hospitalized because the lung collapsed uh so it wouldn't have been really that much different to have him track for three days and see what he's doing and then just cut him down why not gastric bypass seems like that's almost like a sure thing like i don't know anybody who's gotten that surgery is that the one where they make your stomach smaller yeah but then wouldn't that just put you in a severe caloric deficit and mess up your metabolism yeah i don't know but it seems like everyone's i don't know what people tend to say graham is that you you should try everything before yeah sure that's true um i've never personally looked into it um but i know that that can also change like how and what you eat for the rest of your life i believe yes yes yeah it's kind of like the nuclear option in terms of weight loss and then also too because you go into such a bad caloric deficit you also have issues like having loose skin because you're not losing the weight slowly so a lot of these people don't have to get other cosmetic surgeries because then they end up with i think regardless i will probably end up having loose skin if i do end up losing that much weight um just because of the size that i am now and something that i've talked to graham and jack about but not a lot of people know and this is kind of what has helped me stay like really focused um i really want to do things that i cannot do now like i can't walk into macy's or h m and go and expect them to have my size like that's just not a thing or like one of my biggest things that i told drag is like i want to get a pilot's license right i want to learn how to fly plane which when you start off flying planes they're generally pretty small so there's just like tons of stuff that i want to do that uh you know i i definitely am i'm like hoping that you know i i think so far i've created a routine that is a lifestyle change that i could sustain for the rest of my life um but um i've never thought about gastric bypass before so yeah that's interesting just they kind of say it's like the last because like there are you could mess up your metabolism like the risks are higher and then also a lot of these people will just go back to eating the same diet that they did before if that makes sense a lot of them will go back and then it there are issues i have seen it where people have gotten it and then they need to get a second one because they end up just kind of eating and getting themselves back to that point versus like the mentality shift of like i'm gonna start working out i'm gonna start doing eating better and different little things i think that's also why a lot of the doctors have the patients lose like 30 pounds you know or whatever before um to kind of show that they're dedicated towards losing the weight yeah i have heard that something that they've started doing now because it was it has been an issue with that with gastric bypass that a lot of people end up back there and i have heard that now doctors are kind of like you're gonna have to lose 30 pounds on your own without this um but yeah it's just that it can cause more loose skin i mean you could still end up with loose skin afterwards that would need to be fixed but it can end up being not as bad as if like gastric bypass all right so yeah one more question i think it's kind of a we asked this maybe a year and a half ago i would know everybody in this room their biggest insecurities you first jack me first i gotta think of something sure my biggest insecurity i've gone on the record and said it body hair still yep nothing okay how about you can't mention the thing that you mentioned before i mentioned body hair i mentioned asymmetrical face i hate my stomach i hate it and uh i gotta work harder to get rid of the the line of fat like around the midsection i can't stand it i hate looking at myself in the mirror because of because of that did you feel really insecure during the michael reeves fight about that um no because actually the uh the the waistband went above that so it made me kind of feel better about it so you're talking about like love handles like the lowest yeah it's it's called kind of it's just like around the bottom it's like like a little tube tube i hate it and part and part of me keeps thinking like okay when i scale back on like making videos as much i want to get like uh like a really strict routine at least that's something you can just like yeah but i want to get like a really strict routine and get rid of it and like stick with that and yeah get more into fitness but i'm putting it off you know it's that's just i'm making excuses yeah because i could start that today yeah yeah macy my answer was so much different than yours uh i don't think i deserve anything good that's happened in my life to be honest with you guys and i'm worried uh that i'm very insecure at some point it's just all gonna fall apart and everyone's gonna realize like how undeserving i am of it so it's imposter syndrome right is that what it's called yeah i mean that's a that's yeah probably imposter syndrome with with self it's just general self-esteem probably a mix of it but i think i hate myself no but but feeling like myself but feeling undeserving of it like you you're not deserving of these things that you have i personally felt imposter syndrome for sure uh in the beginning of the work that i was doing with graham i was like what led for graham to pick my email what led for me to be able to do this work for him what led for all of this stuff and after i associate with a lot of other people that like would be conventionally deemed as successful you understand that like most of them they benefited because of connection that they they made and you know what i mean like it's very rare that someone just comes up independently you know what i mean and also another thing is it's hard to feel good about yourself when you're surrounded by people that are like amazing and we're very fortunate to be around people that like are conventionally deemed as successful and when you see that all the time it's like you compare yourself to them and i think that's just an unhealthy thing and i've worked on it and i don't have imposter syndrome anymore uh and i don't know yeah i would agree with that and i had the same experience as jack where i was like well how did i i get here um and in the beginning i was like i don't know i just randomly picked my video um but then the longer that i thought about it um i i think about like oh well i was putting work into doing tick tocks and stuff and because i was making tick tocks i made youtube videos because i made youtube videos i had a video set up uh already going like i had my lights set up and everything and um it helped me be like one of the first people out there and you know it goes on and goes on um and you have to also think about it like if you hadn't put in the work to upload as much as you do on that youtube channel you wouldn't have the subscribers that you do uh because otherwise you know i would just have 50 uh how many do you have me see how many subscribers 53 000 yeah otherwise why wouldn't people go subscribe to me on alexander nava on youtube no i'm just kidding but uh you know it's really the work that you put in um and obviously doing grim helps but because if you don't put in any of the work you're not gonna get there everyone knows someone graham knew jason you know when he created that other brokerage you just so happen to be placed in a in a location that is very near a place that sells a really expensive real estate you know a bunch of just things happen by chance but it's your choice to you know capitalize on those opportunities alex your turn um well have i said my weight in the past yes um all right well you got a few options you got physical or you got the deep yeah it's emotional it's interesting how i'm almost gonna cry i feel like yeah guys went for the physical and i feel like if you didn't bring that up to alex you his was also gonna be physical uh let's all i would love to to s switch the roles and then you say something emotional oh but let's let's have alex let's get alex go first um okay i'm trying to think i i was preparing for my weight but i guess i can't use that so um no you can use that i mean if there's truly i'll do a new physical one all right let me you want me to do another physical one okay because my i only have other than my weight i only have one physical like thing that i'm insecure about and i don't mind sharing it um i'm missing a toenail on my big toe and uh so some when i go to the beach and like i'm like oh i have to take off my socks and it feels weird um and uh the story behind that is my friend in high school kicked my toe like on out as a joke and i guess she hit the right angle and it went sideways and i had to get it removed so yeah all right i think we're good yeah cool cool all right well macy thank you so much for coming on we'll link to your info down below in the description uh the same place by the way that you can get a free stock that you can send to the patreon oh yeah our page we to talk about that we got to give shout outs to the patreon members questions oh let's just realize that yeah we're going to be spending a lot of that money back on um setting up the event of a lifetime we're going to do two events a year so basically whatever you spend on that goes towards these events and we'll we'll do something fun depending on the size of the group if it's two people it's it's gonna be way more intimate um and maybe we do something a little bit like i don't know we'll figure something out we could rent out a bowling alley topgolf and you know be funny jack if we get everyone um chips to go gamble out at the casino and we say like hey we're gonna be doing topgolf we got a a private driver alex you could drive us a private driver down to uh yellowtail and then everyone has hundred dollars to go and we could like uh put it on the table that would be fun i actually really like that yeah and they could keep and they could keep whatever they win yeah but they have to gamble they have to gamble it but they could keep the winnings and maybe they could yeah that would be red rock would probably let you guys do that yeah you had like your own blackjack table or something that's true that'd be fun yeah we want to make the event really cool yeah it's gonna be sweet so maton asks uh it was cool seeing you at the creator clash should jack box at the second event so i know macy's trying to box at the second event she really wants to she's made a video on it i would probably be down to box at the second event but i just don't think i really want to commit myself to something else that's like so exhausting time intensive and whatnot so i get that yeah i think you would do well but you would have to dedicate every day i'd say an hour a day real estate if i got in the ring i would not lose that's all i'm going to say and i would you know anything it depends where you're who you're fighting to graham i wouldn't lose that's what everybody says jack everybody's like if that were me i wouldn't lose well guess what one person out of the two has to lose that's true right you know i could be a draw maybe i would i recognize there's a chance if i do this i could lose i just like as long as i can get in quite a few good punches i'm okay you're happy because like some especially with like people that are amateurs that this all it takes is like one good punch and you have a concussion because you don't know how to block very well it's not instinct to know how to block at that point so i'm like as long as i get in a few good ones you just see like spit flying out of their face yeah i'm good what's the next question the next one is uh why patreon now whose idea was it the main idea was the fact that we really want to take this podcast to the next level and we felt like patreon would be a good way to get us there and also the event thing sounds super fun to be able to like meet up with you guys put out a bunch of money for a fancy dinner and maybe gambling or whatever that also sounds fun and i don't just sound like so it was your idea though no no it wasn't it's your idea it was your idea what i thought was your idea i kept telling you that you needed to start a patreon what i thought amazing i kept telling you okay spacey's idea basically came up with it but it's also a good way for us to get up the podcast early take questions like do all these other things you were saying no and i said you guys should do longer forms of them just like how logan paul has that exclusive end bit where they're answering questions yeah it was adam 22. was it that oh you know why because he's monetizing in all these other like right yeah and we're like oh patreon sounds pretty sweet we can offer bonus content and a bunch of other really cool that was it yeah all right well let's i think we're good all right thank you guys so much for watching also i know they're not sponsoring this video guys but big shout out to ftx they've been supporting us on this podcast the entire the entire time so we're going to leave a link down below if you guys want to help out the podcast and or use an amazing exchange that charges zero fees with these they're up 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