A Broken Ceasefire, SNAPocalpyse, Biden’s Fake Signature & a Coming Economic Storm | Tom Bliyeu Show

The Israel Gaza ceasefire has been broken and at least 100 people are dead. The Biden auto pen scandal is gaining new momentum. The government shutdown continues and the question now is what happens when snap benefits expire. A British man was stabbed to death by an immigrant in the UK in broad daylight and that's got Elon predicting civil war. The labor market appears to be weakening as AI optimizations are blamed for recent massive layoffs. Brazil has gone to war with drug traffickers inside their own country and we should find out today if aliens are actually visiting us as three eye atlas is headed towards Earth as we speak. Drew? How goes it? Um I think you're traumatized by what's happening in Israel Gaza. You know, it was just we were celebrating taking victory laps. We were like, "Hey, how come he didn't get the peace prize? Where's the peace prize?" And then Israel is like, "Hold my beer, we're not done yet." >> This one is too fragile. I don't until until like reconstruction begins and all the lines have like moved all the way back, I'm not going to believe it. There's just this is a microcosm of an ideological battle that is going to play out across a lot more places now than just Israel and Gaza. Uh so, yeah, this one's not going away anytime soon. Yeah. Um for those that are playing catch up right now, um IDF soldiers were allegedly attacked in Rafa by Hamas prompting Benjamin Netanyahu to then launch a series of air strikes on Tuesday. Israel military now I'm reading Marjorie Taylor Greene's tweet. Israel's military said Wednesday that the ceasefire was now back on, but after it killed 104 people including 46 children according to local health officials. 46 children, are these not war crimes? And this is uh her retweeting an Associated Press article. Uh originally the account was 60 people um killed, but then as death tolls and things started ticking up overnight, we realized that it was closer in the hundreds. So Yeah. This is uh look, what are people trying to get at with the constant is this war crimes? So, when you are wholesale slaughtering people, uh does it really matter if we call it a war crime or not? The honest answer is on a global stage, the only thing that matters is do you have power? If you have power, you can do whatever the hell you want including drop nuclear bombs, which as we know America has done and we're the only ones who've done it. So, uh and yet, um you just move forward and you have Trump in Japan, um getting along very well with the very people that we dropped these bombs on. So, this is a game of power and I don't say that to diminish any of the moral repugnance of what's happening. I say it in the hopes that people can really start looking at this stuff clear eyed, get out of just moralizing and get into, "Okay, we're in the situation that we're in and so how do we get to the other side of it?" Like really, really, really, when you have the situation that you have, what is the policy? What is the things you want to see people do uh to actually make all of this go away? Um and I think the only thing that's going to make this go away is for the closest thing I've seen is the Abraham Accords to get everybody focused on economic alliances, to get people to understand that you can make life better right now today for you and your family, that your kids' lives can be way way better than yours as measured by economics. And it is the only thing that has worked on a historical time frame and when economics collides with religious ideology, you get this intractable problem or so it seemed. So, the progress on the Abraham Accord side is the only thing that is interesting to me. So, if you can actually get an Arab police force on the ground in Gaza uh to get all of this settled down, that to me, and I said this before, that to me would be historic. I don't care who gets credit for it, that would be insanely historic. Uh so, fingers crossed that we can actually get to that point, but listen, man, I don't know if you've been watching the footage uh of the Hamas, presumably Hamas, street soldiers grabbing Palestinians and breaking their legs with pipes. It is so wild to watch or the um the execution squads. Like this is we're so far from settling this down um that unfortunately, I think any sort of surface level peace is a mirage. It's It's sad that we're here. Um again, jokes aside, like we really just want the war to end, so I just hope that we come to a resolution sooner rather than later, but >> for sure and I love that you're saying something kind because I even map to myself, I look at this stuff and I see um political calculations of, "Okay, the grand sweeping arc of history which never tells the story of the individual tragedy." And it a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic and I really am sort of up at the statistics level looking at this. So, it is good that you remind us of the tragedy at the human level, but for us to for us to make sense of what's happening in this moment, I think it because it isn't just happening in Israel Gaza. There's a reason this is a flash point. There's a reason what would otherwise be this sort of small local conflict has these worldwide implications because there are far more people dying in Russia-Ukraine. People just don't care about it the way that they care about Israel Gaza. Um there are other places in the world where there's far more people dying even with religious um problems. Is it Nigeria that killed over the last 10 years 500,000 Christians? Like there's there's plenty of religious and ethnic death happening in the world, but this particular flash point uh just really captures people's imaginations for reasons that we can tease out one by one if people care, but um we have to reconcile with this. The um this collision of you have a Western style nation in the Middle East that has thrived economically. They have a neighbor that they have oppressed to death because they're afraid that they're going to be attacked, obviously for good reason, but then that also creates more people that want to attack them. And so, you've got this situation that people rightly liken to the end of slavery where it's like, "Well, we kind of [ __ ] these people over for a really long time and if we give them their freedom, aren't they just going to come and attack us?" And so, yeah. How you get this one to end well when on top of that setup, because that obviously isn't how things played out at the end of slavery, they went about their economic business and were like, "Okay, cool, we've got our freedom, let's actually do something with it." Then, what you see now is there isn't from Hamas, I cannot speak in any way, shape or form about the general Palestinian people, I just don't feel like I know enough, but from Hamas, they have an ideological battle that they're waging and they're not going to let it go. So, now it becomes, are you actually going to be able to broker peace without what I think is going to play out? I think uh a consortium of Arab states are going to come in with a police force and hammer the living [ __ ] out of Hamas and however much that spills into the average Palestinian that may or may not be supporting them uh so that Israel isn't the one doing it and so that the Arab world can be like, "Hey, we have to march into this 21st century. The The oil dollars are going to run out. We have to be something else and if we don't have stability, if we cannot attract capital, then we're going to be dealing with this forever." Mhm. We've played the clip before, so I'll just summarize it here, but there was a guy in like the cabinet of either the UAE or I forget exactly what uh nation state, but in the Middle East and he says, "Listen, Europe, you guys are going to give birth to the next set of Islamist extremists. It's not going to be us because we understand what this is. You guys don't." And I thought that was extremely prophetic. He said that like back in 2013 or something. I mean, it was a while ago. And so, I really believe that the general vibe, very complex, but the general vibe in the Middle East is, "Okay, we've got to we've got to diversify economically." And that desire to diversify economically, to become a stable place where capital flows into, to get capital investments from around the world, the country that see the country that attracts the most foreign capital wins. And so, it isn't just about getting the capital from within your own country. You've got to You've got to show stability. You've got to show uh a willingness to let people make money. You've got to show that you're economically powerful and they've got this just glowing problem between Israel and Gaza. And I don't think they're coming down on the side of Israel. I think they're coming down on the side of economics. And so, if they can challenge that as a uh they're not going to be a united force, but as a a loosely aligned consortium, if they can make a stand there, make a stand against Iran, okay, religious fundamentalism, that's really the the stance, then I think you can make progress. If you don't do that, you will be in this death loop forever. Forever. Yeah. We shall see And speaking of Deathloop, I feel like we are remiss that we have to talk about this government shutdown and more importantly >> Are we really saying the community had nothing to say about all that? It's a developing story, so I wanted to just make sure we acknowledge the elephant in the room that is Benjamin Netanyahu. Um but of course now >> you really think this is just a Benjamin Netanyahu problem? Like get rid of Benjamin Netanyahu and problem goes away? I feel like that's what we've done in Middle Eastern and other regime changes. We tried to do that in Venezuela, but it never works and they shouldn't do it in Venezuela either. Cuz here's what happens, you you have a problem. These people are bottom-up leaders. They're not top-down. You you don't have Benjamin Netanyahu as a person who creates the problem. You have a problem and Benjamin Netanyahu rises to the top in that moment. In the same way that Trump is not some tremendous leader that has moved us into a popular populist era. He is a populist leader that could only come to power in a moment like this. And so once you understand a moment like this is the thing to focus on. Like what are all the underlying things that drive this? This is why it drives me nuts when people aren't talking about the economic problems. I I feel so sad. It This is as close as I'll be able to give people moral outrage. Um okay, so Scott Jennings was on CNN yesterday talking about the Oversight Committee's uh report. So the GOP-led Oversight Committee has released a report that's saying they are pushing to void all of Biden's pardons because they were done by auto pen and they're saying that he because they were done by auto pen, they don't trust that he knew about the pardons that were happening. Yeah, some of the testimony, I don't know if you watched any of the testimony. [Music] Pretty damning. In the sense of that Biden really didn't know. He was like, "Okay, go ahead. You got it." >> No, that they weren't even asking him. Some of the people in the testimony, they were like, "How often did you see Joe Biden?" And be like, "Uh I saw him like I think twice in my tenure." What? What? So uh yeah, it it was very startling. But yeah, let's play this. of auto pens has existed in every presidential administration across parties. I had an auto pen when I worked at ICE. I'm sorry, Elliot Williams. >> Elliot Williams literally had an auto pen. >> enough to have an auto pen. I'm so impressed. >> Casey. But no, it uh um and so it's a common practice. >> Did you allow people to use the name Elliot Williams without your knowledge of the document or what was on the page? >> recall. So >> I'm asking you what >> No, I don't If you were a government official and you had an auto pen, which you did, would you let some staffer sign things in your name without reading? >> the question. Here's the question. Was my authority delegated to that person? And I think they do have the authority to do so. Laws and regula And I'm serious, Scott. Laws and regulations >> to delegate pardons and executive orders, the president of the United States can say, "You unelected staffer can go sign my name on a document that I've never seen for a decision that I've never made." Quite often the United States code delegates authority. So through the president Pause for a sec. Honestly, shoutout to CNN for having differing views. It's very interesting to see these guys argue this stuff. Uh I do enjoy that. But the So they're going to go back and forth and Scott just keeps basically saying like there's no way you can't delegate these kinds of things. Um the real argument to me is far less interesting about the auto pen itself and is far more did Biden actually want these pardons to happen? And just going back to the principle of whatever you do to them, they are going to do to you when you lose power. So these boys and girls just need to be very thoughtful. Do you really want to go undo the power of the presidential pardon so that now all of these things are being fought? Um I don't think we do. So I would much rather like, "Hey, if we really don't think Biden did these, then get him. Talk to him directly, put him under oath and just say, 'Did you want to pardon all these people?' And he is of course going to say, 'Yes, of course I did.' Great. I Is it a cover story? Probably. But will I take it to move forward so that we don't find ourselves in this stupid political battle? Yes. And I just really can't understand how these guys cannot look forward into the future and go, 'Oh god, they're going to weaponize this against us.' There's so much of the government that just operates on decorum, what I'll call British common law. So the whole idea behind common law is there's just some things that everyone just sort of does. Like, "Well, this is how we've done it." And you can update it and you can put something on the books and say, "Okay, we may have done that, but like this doesn't make sense anymore. New law." But that way things stand the test of time. And I know like even in an entrepreneurial context, I will beat people to death and say just cuz you've always done it that way does not mean you should do it that way in the future. But from a law perspective, seeing that something have withstood the test of time is very useful. So when these guys seem to be totally ignorant of that fact, not everything is on the books. A lot of it is just we all agree that we don't do that thing. Uh and they start like tearing all of that stuff apart, things will get unhinged very fast. Yeah. I I like I when I seen this on the dial, I was like, "Okay, let me like dig into it. Maybe there's something I'm missing." But I do kind of agree. I feel like this is a delegation thing. Now of course I I'll I I use I'll use our specific example. Like when people want to come on the show, I get a a thousands of pitches like, "Hey, I'll be perfect for Tom's show." And it's a dude that sells supplements. I don't necessarily need to go, "Hey Tom, do you need like should I" I kind of have a good gauge of like yes, no. And I know from their perspective, they're like, "Oh, this dude is gatekeeping. If I can just get around him, I'll be fine." And at the same time, we have this conversation, I can't just add people to your calendar either. So it's not like I get free reign. But I do think we we have to we have to assume that President Biden in good faith, just like President Trump when he signed his executive orders, I might not know, "Is this executive order 145-1 about the Oh, this is the one about the border, right? That we talked about. Okay, cool." I don't need to go line for line. It's kind of assuming that the people I put in power are setting me up for excess success. So I agree that like I don't think that this is the hill that they want to die on. So I'm hoping that this is just a slow news day talking point and not something that they're actually trying to Oh yeah, they're really going to push this one. The DOJ is going to bring charges for sure. Uh this is one where I think there are certain things that shouldn't be delegatable. Pardons is one of them cuz it I think in the Constitution it says like only the executive can do it. Uh so it's very clear about that, but there are many things that yeah, of course, auto pen, somebody else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I trust you, just do it. Like that kind of thing is fine for like the lower level stuff, but pardons. So I I I had to physically sign 600 documents. Uh I think it was 1,600 pardons that Biden did or something like that. That comes down to like how are we going to use the auto pen? Like is there one thing where it's put in front of Biden that says, "I authorize these 1,600 names to be auto penned." And then you at least sign that so you've got some documentation. I'd be all for that. >> Got you. But we're at the point now where I think it makes sense to get Biden under oath and just have him say, "Yes, I wanted all those people pardoned." And then everybody calm the [ __ ] down and let the pardon stand. Could be as mad as you want, but otherwise we're just going to turn the Democrats and the Republicans into increasingly violently opposed forces and they will just come at each other nonstop. And then fewer and fewer people will want to enter the government cuz you just feel like, "Yo, this is dangerous, man. I don't want to go to jail." Like I don't want the other side taking something that I did in good faith, but we ended up like handling the paperwork wrong and now they can put me away. And everyone would agree they should be charged as a misdemeanor, but instead they're doing a felony and getting a max sentence. Like that is not a world we want to live in, man. Egad. And here's the thing, to the people saying he will lie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh totally. I get that. I'm fine with that. I just we need a way to heal and move forward as cheesy as that sounds. So if he's going to stand by it now, great. This message is sponsored by Raycon. Now we'll get back to the show in just a moment, but first, let's talk about why blocking out the world isn't always the answer. The best performers stay aware. They hear the approaching cyclist on the trail, the colleague walking up to their desk, the traffic at the crosswalk. Blocking out the world isn't always the smart play. Sometimes it's downright reckless, but with Raycon's bone conduction headphones, you can send sound through vibrations in your bones. 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Is it about immigrants? Is it about people getting more than they were previously being allocated? Or maybe about a pandemic that happened in Yeah, but why why do you and I'm really asking cuz I don't know. Why did that double the expenditure and not come down now that things have re-normalized? Over 5 years. So, it didn't double, like, you know. So, just like we just like we lost 25% of our purchasing like it those are tied to each other. Um But that would account for 25%. What do you think is the other 75%? So, if you're just saying, "No, no, no, Tom, that's just inflation." Cool. I totally buy that, 25% of it. But I don't it's not going to be 100% of the increase. So, what accounts for the other 75% of the increase? So, there is >> over such a short amount of time. >> There was increased benefits, full stop. There was supply chain issues, also known >> did we increase benefits? Because people weren't working. Because the government was shut down. So, you're saying before it was like supplemental, now it's like we're just going to cover your whole thing. There was there were temporary like bumps in the unemployment, snap benefits, and um So, you're saying this is a those subsidies. All those things were excited. an echo of the labor force. Echo of the labor force from COVID shutdowns. Yes, this was the >> Mathematically, that's not going to get you very far. So, you've got the total all in everything unemployment number, even people that are just I flat refuse to look for a job, is 12%. So, and how but that's like risen from whatever >> people people think if you have snap you're not working. There's There's people who work who I'm sorry, what I just heard you say is uh the increase is due to a corresponding decrease in the amount that those people are getting paid from a job, whether they've lost hours, lost their job altogether, uh inflation, right? Or did I misunderstand what you're saying? They were let's just break it down into tiers. So, COVID, full stop. If you are impacted by >> COVID mean to you? The shutdown in economic activity. Ended years ago. So, what are we talking about? >> But from 2000 but again, we asked what happened in the last 5 years. This is a We have a different graph in our minds. So, the graph in my mind, which we can pull up, I think we grabbed it. It spikes up at COVID, and it comes down a little, but not a lot. And so, I'm saying if this were COVID, it would just come back down to pre-pandemic levels. It doesn't. This is the snap. I don't I didn't I didn't even expenditure graph. Let's look it up. Snap expenditure graph. Yep. Um but yes, they increased all the they increased the benefits over COVID, and then those These are the same thing with the ACA subsidies that they're arguing about. It was a COVID temporary relief that people now don't want it to they don't want to resent that temporary subsidy. Okay, so do you think they should and I'm just misunderstanding? I'm saying this is where it comes from. You asked me where it came from. Right. >> Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, I'm saying as we look at this, what what I'm asking is you've got people that got an increase in benefits. To me, you should only get an increase in benefits if you are going to be malnourished without an increase in benefits. And then we go, "Okay, why are you not able to afford food?" I think this should all be means tested, which I know people hate, but just seems insane to me that we don't means test. What do you mean by means test? That you have to qualify. Like, are you looking for a job? Why are you not able to get a job? How much you getting paid at your job? Could you That that's like there's an application for snap. It's the same thing with like unemployment. How you have to like file, then you have to like you get assigned it. I can't just go to snap.com and >> direct statement is very simple. Uh if we took people's benefits up because during COVID they were literally without work, I get that. >> Copy. Now that things have normalized, >> I got it. >> them all now to have jobs again. So, the question becomes are they proving that they're looking for a job, that they have a reason that they're not able to get a job, so on and so forth? >> Uh that's not the one that I'm thinking of, but if that paints the clear picture, it just looks like that ends in '22. We need one that ends in '24. Um snap expenditures graph. Uh Anyway, okay, it goes up, it comes down a little, it does not come down. That's the graph. Yes. Boom, boom. It spikes for 2020. >> pure insanity. I I don't see like someone would need to explain to me why the 2025 trend is not back to 2019. There's a reason, but I want to know what it is. So, anyway, this is all what do I think is going to happen when snap defaults? I think we're going to find out why that number hasn't come back down. And if it's a whole bunch of [ __ ] meaning if immigrants are on snap, people are going to have something to say about that. If it's people that aren't being means tested, people are going to have something to say about that. If it's people some percentage selling their snap benefits because they are getting let's say $3,000 with the snap benefits, but they only need $1,000 to eat, then uh rumor has it some percentage between one person and a whole bunch, which I have no idea, uh are selling their snap. So, these are all the things that we're going to find out. Or it's all entirely need-based, and so many people have lost their jobs, the economy is collapsing, and it's just revealing the underlying rot, and it's the canary in the coal mine. I don't know the answer. So, that's what we're going to find out. Now, if it's this is just the canary in the coal mine, the government has [ __ ] up so badly that something like 40% of Americans are on benefits. So, it's like, "Yo, you have you have a catastrophic problem if 40% of people are on benefits." That's wild. So, um we need to fact-check that. We need to look at that cuz it I might be conflating 40% are on government payroll, which could also be true. Both of those are wildly problematic. Um But anyway, that's what we're going to learn. And then Um I want >> be a reaction from that. I want to go to this Peter Saint quick clip who says that the shutdown could last to 2027 cuz unlike past shutdowns is not a debt ceiling scare that's around the corner. This was crazy. Had you ever contemplated this? I had no This was not on my bingo card. >> I'm going to be honest, this is the longest shutdown since Trump did it the last time, and because he wants to slash government anyway, to me Republicans have no incentive to open the government again. Now, but their poll numbers going up, but it I failure of imagination. I did Let Let him say what he's going to say, and then I'll explain how shocked I was. The government shutdown could theoretically last until 2027, according to Zero Hedge. Dare we dream? As the federal shutdown enters day 28, we are just 1 week shy of the record set back in 2018, when Trump wanted a border wall and Democrats wanted new voters. Republicans ended up surrendering on that one with not one penny for the wall, but this time, amazingly, Republicans have held the line. This is probably because polls are showing the shutdown is not actually hurting Republicans. In fact, their odds in the midterm elections, the most important thing in Washington right now, have actually gone up since the shutdown began, now hitting 40%. That's pretty impressive considering the party in power has won midterms just three times since 1934. Yet here we are near even after 4 weeks of shutdown. Now, the polling suggests mainstream media's lost their mojo while Trump has been very careful to keep funding everything popular, so the military, ICE, WIC for pregnant women, whilst starving all the left-wing garbage, the foreign aid, money holes for New York subways and wind farms, food stamps for illegals. So, there's little pressure for Republicans to cave. They win by doing nothing, which to be fair is already their comfort zone. That takes us to Zero Hedge who asks, "How long can it keep going?" Now, the key is most past shutdowns were paired with a debt ceiling, which makes markets panic about Treasury payments, which are the lifeblood of our Ponzi financial system. But the next debt ceiling doesn't hit until mid-2027. That removes the external pressure to cut a deal. So, if the world's not ending, if markets aren't even noticing the shutdown, if Republicans are rising in the polls while Democrats are afraid of their antifa base, nobody needs a deal. In theory, this means they can literally keep going until 2027. So, for fun, what if they do? For starters, 2027 is far past the 61 days needed to permanently fire federal workers. The Office of Management and Budget has already officially fired roughly 10,000, and can keep going to, in theory, all 750,000 who are officially listed as useless. >> Dude, if they do that, that would be be transformative from a cost perspective. I'm not going to lie, I'm kind of for it. I don't know enough about what the unessential worker or nonessential workers do to just pull that trigger willy-nilly, but this is the Watching this was the first time I was like, "Wait, do I actually have hope of a balanced budget?" Uh so, I again, I don't know that that would come even close. You probably can't get anywhere near what you need to get to without touching entitlements, but I was like, "Hold on a second." Yeah. Cuz first of all, counting this is counting government jobs as GDP is so insane. I That That is patently ridiculous. That is patently ridiculous. It's wild. You're double counting because those are just tax dollars going out again, and you're counting it again. Like, you're literally double-counting revenue. That's insane. Uh so, you shut that off. You stop pretending. You get a real sense of where your economy is, which I think will be startling to people about how slow our growth actually is. Uh and then >> be the impact of that of the GDP thing? Cuz I think that would have a lot >> psychological, because it is it's you're double-counting the revenue from a GDP perspective. >> Yeah. So, we find out our GDP is -4 the last 20 years. This whole >> It'll not negative, but it'll be very low. Yeah. Yeah. Uh so, let's say you find out that you thought it was whatever we think it is, 2.8 or 1.8, maybe it's 1.8 right now. Uh and you find out that it's like 0.4, it would be like, "Ooh, we are stagnant. We have been stagnant." Like, cuz then you start running all the numbers going backwards and saying, "Okay, if we took out all the governmental expenditures, what does that look like?" And you start realizing, "Oh my god, like this is a ridiculously low number." Uh that would be very, very detrimental to the psychology of the US, but I think it would help people understand why we are where we are. Dude, real wages have stagnated for like 40 years. That's insane. Especially when you think about how much inflation there's been in Yeah. America's just been getting poorer and poorer and poorer. And the part that really wounds my soul and they don't understand it's from money printing. They just don't understand it. Money printing, globalism. If you like a one-two punch, and if you can only do one, money printing. Like, if you if you can only fix one, you'll fix money printing over the globalism. >> Correct. Got it. Um hypothetically speaking, I know we talked about this number earlier that estimates 40% of people are employed by federal and like government. I'll say federal and state. I'll put combine those numbers together. Let's say we slash that to 20%. That is roughly 60 million people. Um on top of the other million AI job losses that is kind of on the This is where it gets scary. >> Yeah. Is you now run the risk of putting yourself into a deep, dark depression. >> Yeah. Uh from just all the job loss. >> Yeah. Because whether that's recycling tax dollars or not, that's money that people have to put into the economy. There are two economies now in America. They have completely fractured away from each other. And basically, rich people are driving all of the spending. And you can look at our economy and go, "Oh, like, hey, 1.8. Okay, that's not great, but it's not horrible." And then you start looking under the hood and you realize that that 1.8 is largely fake because of people working for the government. And then on top of that, it's driven by like a tiny number of companies. The spending is driven by a tiny number of people, like 10% of Americans are driving, I don't know, 80% or more of the spending. Yikes. Dude, you can't have that. You can't You can't have it simply because of envy and resentment. >> Yeah. Like, there's not a complex mathematical formula about why you can't have it. You can't have it because we as animals cannot look out at somebody else that has way more than us, where the economy is working for them, and be okay. We won't be okay. We'll start fighting. We start hurting other people. Like, that's the response. And when you get a mass number of people mobilizing to hurt other humans, you have instability, lack of safety. It It is a nightmare of epic proportions. Speaking of killing people, let's go over to the UK now, where we have footage of a Afghan man attacking a That was terrible. Yeah. Thoughts and prayers. That Yeah, no kidding. Also, by the way, this is extremely graphic. So, if you've got kids or you're squeamish, uh you don't want to watch this. This one's rough. Um but here we go. Um this was reported uh yesterday. And as you can see, there's a >> is broad daylight. >> squabble A squabble? And >> what I heard, he doesn't know this guy at all. >> I thought they were they were they looked like they were yelling at each other. >> just walking his dog, and he they must argue about something. I have no idea what, but this guy stabbed him to death. Just stabs him to death. I'm talking, if you're not watching, overhand I mean, what's he get him, 12, 15 times? This This is not like poke and run off. >> Crazy. He is just stabbing the literal life out of this man in broad daylight. This is so wild. And he goes on to attack a couple more people. Now, look, I don't know. Is he mentally ill? Could be. Uh but this obviously, in a country where you're inviting a whole lot of immigrants in that do not share your values, and you give them a spark like this, buckle up. We'll see, man. We'll see. But this this is >> retweeted civil war in Britain is inevitable, just a question of when. Yeah. Um I feel like there's this similar notion of civil war. I don't know if this is just another example of populism. We need somebody to blame. Um Yes. Yes. I mean, that's a That is like, if you're going to nutshell it, when people are economically insecure, then that economic insecurity turns into um it starts as anxiety. Nobody wants to sit in that, so they transmute it into anger. And then when you actually have a real problem, then it becomes easy to point people at that. And the real problem is very simple. Uh you have a clash of cultures. I don't need you to believe one side is right over the other. I just need you to understand that the physics of the human mind is that when you encounter people that don't share your value system, you start killing each other. So, and just to make that one easy for people, uh Protestants and Catholics in Ireland, they were all white as the driven snow, and they were killing each other as fast as they could. So, uh when ideologies differ, people start killing. So, uh welcome to the human experience. Um there's a clip I want to pull from the Rudyard Kipling interview because he asked him this question, does he see civil war? And I like Rudyard's response, cuz I think this is something >> Yeah, this is something that we always overthink. Um The the part I'm talking about though is when he was like, "I don't think that this will do it because >> Yeah. There are Yeah, yeah. I thought he was going to be like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." And he was like, "Well, so it's it's a very tempered and very insightful response. >> Yeah. It comes from basically intimation, cuz my search is not working and YouTube is hating. Um you can you can cut it. Um Well, it comes intimation that um poor people in America, specifically they were talking about in the on the backs of snapocalypse, they won't rise up for a civil war because effectively they have no power. They don't have the same infrastructure. They don't have the same guns as a private. Now, America has very specific people. If Elon Musk is wronged, he has enough money to get a bunch of mercenaries. He could do battle with the US Army, you know. >> He he may He may not directly, but at least Yeah. >> I'll give I'll try to get very close to verbatim. >> Mhm. Uh when Tim Pool asks Rudyard Lynch, aka Whatifalthist, if he thinks that the snapocalypse, as some people are calling it, the end of the snap benefits, will cause a revolution in America, he said a couple points. One, it's very hard to starve in America. Uh so, because people won't necessarily be hungry enough, they won't have the enough agitation. Then, um also, the only times that you see actual revolutions are when you have a group that is politically savvy and influential enough to actually get well organized, and then like really cause a meaningful problem to the government. >> Mhm. And he said, "This is why a lot of times you will see um when people are trying to hold power in like a communist regime, they'll just kill all of those people." And so, unfortunately, when like the Shah of Iran took power, he killed like 30,000 leftists. So, the very people that helped get him into power ended up being a threat to him cuz he saw, "Oh, you guys are so well organized. You got me here, but you also don't believe the things that I believe. And so, now I've got to kill you guys." Uh so, killed uh like 30,000 and exiled a bunch more, and that's how he gained power. So, yeah, you If you're not well organized, and that's the next part of his argument, is if you're just poor, unorganized, working person, you can't generate enough momentum to actually do something meaningful. You can sort of um uh what was the Occupy Wall Street of it all? But they didn't have They didn't know what they wanted. They didn't have one clear agenda. There was no one clear leader. And so, their energy just dissipated over time. Uh so, without that very concrete, well-organized, very clear agenda, you're not going to do anything big. Yeah. Do you So, does that To me, that gave me a bit of relief cuz because there was a lot of this snapocalypse is going to happen, and people are going to freak out, and they're going to riot, and they're going to do all these things. Whereas like, yes, they might do those things, but is that the equivalent to a BLM no kings protest? I don't think it's actually going to get to national guard, Trump needs to intervene the snap levels. Yeah, on the results of the snap thing. But My I The only way I can answer the snap thing is it's so rare that something really pops off. I don't think we're there yet. Mhm. Um but that's not of facts and I'm looking at it. I'm just saying, "Nah, from a historical perspective, like those kind of things, it's rare that they actually end up popping off." And we're not at the 30% unemployment, There isn't enough focused like this person. The closest thing even during 2020 when you had the flashpoint of very specifically we're all locked down, we're all freaked out, we don't know if we're safe, we don't know what our economic future looks like, and we think the government is killing underserved people, then it's like, okay, you really had a chance for things to properly pop off and even then it like it don't get me wrong, it was bad, but it wasn't revolution civil war bad. So if that didn't spill us over, we're in a better position now than we were in 2020. So I don't think >> Unfortunately, I think it's going to be worse. I think it's going to be a slow painful death versus a revolution. And I'm saying this >> You'd rather see a revolution. It's not that I'd rather see a revolution. It's just that I don't think we have the juice for a revolution to be honest with you because I think a lot of this political rhetoric is YouTube and internet talk. And when you get face to face with somebody, your your courage is a lot different. >> a good or a bad thing in your mind? That That we don't have enough juice for a revolution. I think for a bloodiness perspective it is good. The comma however part comes to into though we aren't collaborative enough to come around the corner of it though because I don't think that that's also going to then lead to a Kumbaya moment kind of like we had civil war because we don't have the okay guys, no more slaves, we're all friends now, let's hug it out. I don't think there's going to be a time where like, okay guys, let's hug it out. No more illegals, we're friends now. Or okay, let's let's just split the difference 50/50 tax, everybody's good now, let's hug it like I don't see a common ground for the right and the left right now even if everybody kind of tried to meet in the middle of their policies cuz we're so sprung out. Revolutions almost always lead to tyranny. It is beyond shocking what we pulled off in America. I mean beyond shocking that we were able to get the states which were essentially separate countries at that point all together to rebel in unison and then to actually and it wasn't immediately after like a decade after we get them to ratify the constitution of the US. Yeah. Very impressive. Very impressive. And I I don't know man. I don't know if it was just that particular moment in time. Like I got hit up by somebody who was basically like, Tom, there's going to need to be a second founding of the country and we need voices like you. And I was like, yeah, this is not real. I just >> a freedom papers no >> but I don't >> What's the convention that the Hamilton not the where he did the freedom papers? It was the Federalist convention or something? >> God, if It's one of those where if I didn't have to say it out loud, I would know exactly what it was. The the convention the the convention that they had to go to. Yep. And the chat's going to tell us. Chat's going to tell us. We'll get there. So yeah. All right, let's um I I don't think we're at that point. I don't think we could agree. I think if we had a revolution in America right now, it would end up like the Arab Spring. Just so many people pulling in different directions that you just end up getting the most tyrannical person that can hold everybody together taking back power. Sounds like Trump if we had to. Would he be able to If he was willing to shoot a bunch of people, it like if the military rocked with him and he could get them to shoot people, yes. But if the military broke away, no. Constitutional convention, thank you guys. That was so easy too. We dropped the ball on that one. >> Yeah, we did. Thank you, chat. We'll get back back to the show in just a second, but first let's talk about something that should terrify you every time you go online. You're being tracked. Your browsing habits, your location, your personal data, it's all being collected, sold, and exploited. And if you think incognito mode protects you, think again. That's where a VPN like Surfshark comes in. This is about more than privacy. It's about taking back control of your digital life. Surfshark encrypts your internet connection so no one can track what you're doing online. Not your internet provider, not advertisers, not hackers. You become invisible. 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And I I look at this example a lot because if you are yes, there are now 20 something odd people that have jobs and families and all types of things. So God bless the entrepreneurs, all that stuff. However, that ratio if we had to extrapolate that, can we can that be sustainable enough because right now it seems like the job losses are coming in waves faster than new companies are coming into practice. So I feel like we're starting to hit a net negative. Not to mention the government employees that if Trump gets his way with this federal shutdown that we talked about that he hired like let's go even more people, we can really see a substantial number of people who had quote unquote nine-to-five safe jobs now being unemployed with jobs that don't exist no more in industries that are fading away quickly. What is there to do? True, this this one is legitimately scary because I the way that I play this out in my mind is as follows. Every revolution that we've had previously technologically created more jobs than it got rid of. So nobody should cry for the lamplighter. Although I'm sure there was legitimate human tragedy in a guy could feed his family one day and couldn't the next and his wife ends up leaving him because he can't make ends meet and she finds a guy that can and I mean just like all of it and he loses his kids and becomes an alcoholic. I'm sure all of that is true. But the reality is that you have to distribute the pain and suffering. So when you try to make sure that nobody can fail, you just stagnate society and then everyone fails. So you're in a position where you have to just say there's going to be creative destruction, electricity comes along, lamplighters go out of business, automobiles come along, horse and carriage, all that stuff goes away. And it just is what it is and historically more jobs got created by electricity than we lost. So cool, this is a net win, we're all moving in the right direction, industrial revolution, same with all that stuff. And then I think about what's going on with the AI revolution and I go, huh. You're creating something that's going to be better than me at everything. It will on a long enough timeline be indistinguishable from humans to where you'll be tricked. You'll have a friend and it'll be like the crying game. And you uh you're having sex and you can feel a bolt inside. I mean it's literally going to be some [ __ ] like that and you're like, wait. And we're going to get the the what are they called? The comp void machines or whatever from um Oh god. It's not Cyberpunk. It is Blade Runner. And that's all going to happen. And so I'm like, okay, these things are going to be not a little bit smarter than me, not like Einstein is smarter than me smarter than me, like a thousand times smarter than me, 10,000 times smarter than me. And embodied. So now I'm like, what do I do exactly? And so then you realize only people that can monetize the fact that they are human will have a job. But then you go, but the reality is that [Music] the bots are going to make everything free. So now I've got this hyper intelligent being that will know how to capture energy from the sun, will be clever in ways that we just aren't. And so energy becomes free, labor becomes free, and that means everything is free. And you were limited only by the resources that you can capture here on Earth or in asteroids as they fly by. Or maybe you can even synthesize things. Like think about this. Plants turn sunlight and dirt into physical structure that you can eat and survive. So you can transmute things hard. And so if this thing gets really good, it could be like capturing like bacteria from the air and mixing it with sunlight and turning it into whatever the [ __ ] So we may not even have to like go farm asteroids, I don't know. Like but whatever. Like with enough energy, you can actually manufacture gold. You really can turn lead into gold. It just takes so much energy, it's pure insanity. So once energy's free though, so you might be able to just make whatever you want. Okay, so it's a world of abundance. Everybody has basically whatever they want. So it's like we're trying to think through this literally unimaginable future through the lens of what we're like today. So I'm both supremely confident that there will be a world of abundance on the other side of AI and I'm supremely confident that there'll be a ton of bloodshed between here and there because people are going to freak out. So at a minimum, the bloodshed will be religious even if it doesn't end up being economic. Like let's just say we like the companies solve like artificial super intelligence in the background, they real quick spin up like everything's free and then they launch it and they're like yay no one has to worry everybody eats starting right now. So even in a there's no time to have a bad transition period scenario there's still the loss of meaning and purpose there's still the religious battle that's going to be fought and so it's like what does a transition look like that's the part that scares me and then now make it a more mundane one where it's like the transition lasts 30 years there's plenty of time to react but it's a whole bunch of years like this where you go from 12% unemployment to 16 and of the 16% 10 are just people that have objected out of the economy because there are just is despair the only job that they're ever going to find meaning in is going to be something manual but now all that's done by robots cuz the robots are just way better at it they don't complain and they're not likely to be a lawsuit they don't need breaks they're way more efficient they're way more consistent I mean just the host of advantages that then will show up as lowered cost to people so it's like a lot of people are going to go I was having trouble making ends meet but I've kept my job and now costs are going down so it's like yeah we have a 16% unemployment but life's pretty good and the government is like make sure they don't starve so and then it's 20% and now you start getting like roving bands of young men that do really troubling things you're like I don't I don't like that I don't like where that's going but like a you know we wall off our neighborhoods and right so it'll be like this thing where we sort of limp along and you're getting an underclass of people and the underclass they're doing a lot of drugs they're being violent but we can like sort of keep them at arms length and we we build prisons for effectively free and they're guarded by AI bots and so it's like yeah we're now incarcerating like seven 10 million people but like energy you know what I mean things are getting cheap so and like just doesn't get so bad can I play a dirty leftist for a second let's go Tim Riley coming in hot right now we have data centers spinning up and local municipalities are subsidizing those data centers taking the energy cost passing them on to customers to get those data centers there hypothetically speaking we continuing that trend Elon gets a crazy government subsidy to start the Optimus program to make them all so now every police department is half robot it's 50% off so all police departments get for 50% budget reduction but Elon gets a big tax break for that we extrapolate that so we have these gains in more robotics in our streets more data centers nationally energy is effectively lower cost but the costs are now spread to the people and those economies start to begin to break we don't have that abundance where it frees everything and we starting to give people subsidies away because just like the 41 million people on snap we're not about to give 82 million people snap forget that y'all need to go pull yourself up by your bootstraps and we just kind of have this affected population of people falling off of the property ladder so to your point those gated communities now become smaller but they're really thriving the 10% that Ray Dalio says that's propping up the economy that they're propping up now the entire world now because Optimus robots are in every major country every developed nation but that bottom 60% is now let's say bottom 65% that's really kind of getting to it if the age of abundance never really comes does this just become a great depression style like error that if you elect mom Donny yes if if you do bad policies this will be a nightmare of biblical proportions because if you march yourself into the Great Depression that is that's an own goal that is a decade or more long of just a lot of human suffering but good policies can keep that from being a problem so for instance the fact that China outproduces us on an energy basis that is I don't know that it's an order of magnitude so let's say that hyperbolically but orders of magnitude more than us it's like such a grotesque number that you know it's possible okay so this is a regulation problem and if we were to do policies that hamstring us that where we're distributing the burden to people the taxpayer that is so wild and stupid and completely unnecessary that I am aghast so if we do that bad things will happen if we realize that small government is the goal small government is the goal innovation is the goal thriving middle class goal goal goal then we have the right orientation and we can start making choices where it's like okay cool we've got all these robotics costs are coming down that's amazing so now we have to make sure that we have a thriving middle class we have to make sure that the age of abundance is it's not going to be evenly distributed in the in the beginning it's never going to be evenly distributed so you get people to work hard by saying if you work hard and out perform other people then you can have more than they have you never ever ever ever ever ever ever want to break that Brutus which is why I say socialists and communists are the same thing so on that side you if you're protective of that then you're going to be in good shape but it really will one require us to be evaluating what's actually happening because this is on the other side of the technological singularity so I can give you like principles and guidelines but I can't tell you the specifics of how this is going to roll out but for instance energy needs to be cheaper for everybody so you can't make energy cheaper for businesses and not taxpayers you can't make so I guess on this you might do special energy zones or something like that but basically you want one rule set to rule everybody in terms of access to those public works so right now we're asking taxpayers in certain areas to bear an unusual burden that's wild so as they begin to reap these benefits distributing free energy to the people that that is hugely important you cannot let those wins just accumulate up to the businesses this is where the government has to say we're going to make these policies we're going to build this infrastructure we ourselves are going to point tax dollars at this but it is to benefit the population as a whole [Music] interesting we got to go to Brazil right now because it is turning into a war zone with some of this footage that's coming out about 2500 cops rolled into Rio de Rio before sunrise to take on red command one of Brazil's biggest drug gangs gang members entered with bullets burning cars barricades and for the first time ever in Brazil drone dropped explosives you have to do this you have to do this you cannot let drug lords like post up in your countries and you get so much corruption in these governments it just becomes impossible to fight back I'm super encouraged by this the death toll hit 80 by noon four cops were among the dead the governor says Rio is effectively at war and based on the skyline he is not kidding look at that man you can just kind of see all of the burning all the things that's happening right now this is why you enforce laws this is why you enforce laws like when you just let these people go into certain areas and they can entrench like they just get more and more powerful these guys are sophisticated just like you get geniuses in East Coast Ivy League schools you get geniuses in the hood and so these guys that are doing and selling drugs they're going to be able to recruit their own share of geniuses and they start doing fancy highly technical stuff did you see the USOs I know they were called that off of Fort Lauderdale oh my god do do a quick search for USO Fort Lauderdale this is one that I didn't think was going to stick to my ribs I had no idea I was going to bring this up so I didn't grab it but this is you got to see this I don't even want to give it away scroll down that right there okay everybody look at your screen so Drew what are those you have unidentified I assume sunken objects I don't know what the S stands for submerged that's probably more likely unidentified submerged objects now hey this video could just be a guy like dropping lights and trying to do something fancy and he's just making a video totally totally get how this could be that but also we know that the cartels use submarines to get product to the United States and how they do that I'm saying they get so sophisticated they like get engineers to build them like the most crazy contraptions so now again I don't know what this is but it is not an alien it's either fake or my guess is drug cartel related I remember I'll never forget this I read Freakonomics for the first time and they talked they broke down one of like Chicago drug pins. And he said the structure is corporately similar to a McDonald's. >> Yes. Like from the top to the bottom to the corporate infrastructure to the bureaucrats even how they do the laundering, everything. It's so it's not just a bunch of dudes with doo-rags who are just selling drugs. Like there's a lot of >> I had a quest. So uh put out the word on the the street that even if you had felony convictions, we would consider you for employment. >> Mhm. Uh it's all because I believe it doesn't matter who you are today, it matters who you want to become, the price you're willing to pay to get there. Okay. So we end up getting all these gang members, drug dealers, I thought former drug dealers, uh applying. And some of them were amazing. Some of ended up being my favorite people in the world, just absolutely incredible people. Some ended up being dirtbags. Mhm. Uh but anyway, we got this one guy and he had originally taken the job for a front for his drug money so he could go to his parole officer and say I got a job here. Uh and he ended up breaking down for me how his organization was structured. And I was like you're a brilliant entrepreneur. I was like you don't call them employees, but you have employees. Mhm. You don't think of it as a corporate structure, but you have a corporate structure. Like different people have even different names of what they do. And uh I was like you guys have to be incredibly sophisticated about how to move and market your product. Like he was talking about cuz I was like how do you not get caught? And he was like first of all everybody can be identified, this will age the conversation, but everybody can be identified by their whip. And so I'm like okay, so you know who's undercover? Yes. And you know when they change based on what car they're driving? Yes. Uh he was like also and I still can't believe this was in America. He was like I kept a wad of cash in my back pocket so when I get pulled over and they would frisk me, they would find the money and they would just leave me alone. And I was like holy bejesus. Uh and he was like you know where the cameras are, you know what their blind spots are, so you know where you can post people up. I was like this is wild. >> Mhm. And yeah, all very crazy. And for anybody that doesn't know what a trap house is, that's horrifying. But like all of this stuff is uh it's very sophisticated, very sophisticated. And once I realized oh what you sell is risk, then I was like got it. Like what they're actually making money off of isn't the sale of the thing. Mhm. It's that that thing has so much risk associated with its sale that that is the moat that keeps all the competition out. And so in fact that's a better way to say it. Their moat is risk. Mhm. And so if you're willing to take on all that risk and you have the sophistication of a like proper entrepreneur, whoa. Like these guys move units. Are you one of those people from the school of thought that if they were in a different environment, they would be somewhere on Wall Street type thing? >> 100%. It's just humans. If you took any one of those kids and raised them in an affluent neighborhood, they would have done af- affluent kid [ __ ] And like some of the stories from those guys like were wild. One of the kids got jumped uh on the way home. His own mother his own mother sees him beaten to [ __ ] And she puts a bullet on the table. Goes does that bullet have a name? And he just goes yes. Takes it puts it in the gun and starts looking for him on the street. Thankfully he doesn't find him. But I was like yo, when your mom is like you need to handle that business to a 13-year-old, I was just like whoa. That my mom's reaction would have been very different. It would have been straight to the principal. Who did this to my son? Uh so yeah, you end up uh reflecting the world around you. There was another kid who um his father, stepfather was shot in the head and killed, drug dealer. And so his mom was like you got to take over the family business. So what like I mean he was a teenager, ends up taking over the family business, drugs. And I was just like whoa. So yeah. Super bright. Not all of them obviously. No matter where you go, you're going to find smart people, you're going to find dumb people. But I was scandalized by how bright, how savvy some of these guys were. And honestly, I was like uh I don't know if I'd be an entrepreneur if every day I had to worry about people showing up with shotguns to steal my protein powder. I was just like I don't know, man. Mhm. That's a lot of risk. I don't know that I come on the other side of that. And I have a huge appetite for risk. But no one tried to kill me for my protein powder. Yeah. Man, very different game. Uh all right. It's all I'm talking about about aliens, three-eyed Atlas. >> as far you got to show Michio Kaku first. Oh, okay. So Michio Kaku basically gives credibility. Once the credibility is established, then we'll look at that image. Mhm. >> But this is crazy. I did not think Michio Kaku was going to say the world's divided on this. I thought he's going to be like it's a rock, boys and girls. It's a rock. Um because that was the story. The story was it was a rock, we didn't know what it was, then we had to wait a couple uh we had to wait until it got closer so we could get better images of it. And it's looking like a ship. >> This is wild. I love that there have been people posting uh enhanced versions, of course not saying this is AI. And when you see the AI version, it's like hysterical. But we'll get to that. We got to earn it first, Drew. Here it is. Okay. So this mystery object has been added to the International Asteroid Warning Network. That's that's the first interstellar object ever to make that list. So I got to ask you, what the heck is three-eyed Atlas and why why the clouds of mystery around it? NASA's like tight-lipped. Well, there's a split, a split in the astronomical community. The majority faction says what's all the fuss about? I mean it's just a rock from outer space and it's going to come through our solar system for the first time and then come whizzing back again is the third third known object from outside our solar system. So what's the fuss? Another faction however says now wait a minute. Perhaps this is a visitor, an intelligent visitor from another solar system. And perhaps this week we could have a test of it. That's right. This week it turns out that the asteroid or comet will be whizzing around our sun. And if it picks up extra energy on its flyby, that would clinch it. That means there's extraterrestrial intelligence involved. So watch for it. On October 30th starting then I don't think he explains how we'll know if they've picked up extra energy. So I'll trust that scientists are going to freak out if they do, so we'll get the answer. Mhm. But this is wild that the closer it gets, the more we're like say what? >> Yeah. What is this thing? Okay, now let's take a look at the actual like close-up. Now as far as I know, this is legitimate footage. But I can't swear to it. But this was um shocking. This this is like a really distant one, but they have one that's much closer. Uh I think the reason they show this one is it like slightly changes course or seems to. Yo, hold on. This is the wrong link. Yeah, we need the one that shows the uh I just had it. There there it is. All right. Looks like an amoeba. This is wild. Okay. If you're not looking at your screen, I mean this really looks like a weird shape something with a whole bunch of lights on it. And the lights are way too symmetrical to just be completely random. But weirder things have happened. So I'm like trying to think is it possible that these are like some sort of or and they're reflecting light off of this I don't know, man. This is wild. There's no I just I literally can't allow myself to believe that like today on a random Wednesday aliens rolled up and they're just like what's up, guys? Just cruising by. Uh that would be the wildest [ __ ] ever. And to be fair, it's passing the sun. So it's it's entering into our solar system now. It got notoriety the third Well, technically I think it would already have to be in our solar system to pass the sun. >> Yeah, yeah. But uh It's the third interstellar object ever recorded in history. But the reason that they're waiting to see what happens when it passes the sun is assumedly if you get something hot, they'll try to alter their course, they'll try to drive around it, or they'll just pick up the energy and like gases will expand like a typical asteroid does in the past. So they're looking to see how it reacts to getting that close to the sun to see like okay, is this driven by something or is this just a rock floating aimlessly? Um This is wild, man. Yes, this image definitely makes it look like more mothershippy. Especially with the little flicker that just goes by. >> runs across it. But why would you have a ship that does that? I was like that feels more like but it feels more like something like wind has crossed it that causes some sort of chemical reaction of whatever's there. But then I was like There's no wind >> it's the vacuum of space. in space. >> So but ah and isn't part of their beef that it's not giving off like a comet tail? Yeah. It it like it's not it's not acting like traditional asteroids have acted before. Um but there is gases and stuff emanating from it. I'm so curious what people think this is. Uh can we do a poll? See is this an alien? Yes or no? >> Yeah. Yes. Chat. >> this an alien? Yes or no? Let's hop in on this and see. Why Why an alien ship have lights? The same way the United Airlines ship has lights when it flies? Um have you ever seen a bacterium under this microscope? There are solar winds in space, so maybe that's what's doing it. It's a giant shiny nickel rock. That's the kind of thing I'm thinking, like there's just parts that are like more exposed than others. It does look like an amoeba, you're definitely correct about that. We've got some deaf aliens in here. Alien ship is too much fun not to be. I want it to be an alien ship, but we talked about this. There's definitely the universe is too big for there not to be one other living heartbeat civilization. Unless it's a simulation. So, well, so there's two things that could be real. If this is a simulation and you just set up a bunch of rules and then the rules go crazy, uh but you put life only on one place cuz that's what you're trying to simulate to see what it does. Um that would certainly explain why we can't figure out what is that first thing that triggers life because you don't need that. That's just the code in the simulation and it That's the light turning on. Yeah, it starts at a certain point and then just goes from there. Um so, that's part of why it could be. And then the other would be that as a civilization becomes advanced, they collapse inward into simulations rather than going outward into the excruciatingly dangerous universe. Um it I don't think life will ever form in interstellar space. There's nothing that makes me believe that that would even be remotely possible. So, now you get into you've got to have a planet in a habitable zone and all of the things we know about life says that you need that. Uh just the numbers are too staggering for there not to have been life anywhere else. Like that's too crazy to believe. Um but if they do realize like okay, we've evolved to be like okay on this planet with all of its crazy protections. And so, the second we try to leave this atmosphere, like we're going to be taking crazy radiation, like all kinds of bad things, like this is not going to be good. Um and hey, as we started developing the technology to do all that stuff, we also realized that we could make the matrix. Uh far more people are going to I think go inside of these virtual worlds in success. I mean, that's what I'm trying to build. It's obviously such a pipe dream right now. I don't want any credit for that, but um man, I really hope the whole gaming thing works because it is so thrilling to me. The idea of building something that people could literally experience at a nervous system level in call it 30 years. Remember, there are people moving robotic arms with their brain implants right now today. Right now today. So, this is not playing video games via telepathy with their brain implants. This is not some far-fetched thing. So, um that's really actually going to be possible. And man, would that be cool. Emily will 4992. It'll be so easy to create unity in the world using alien life form threat. Brutally. Is it Is this just a Watchmen pitch? Is this just Oh, sorry, spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. Uh It's possible. I don't I don't trust that. Do we have an Adrian Veidt among us? Um Yeah, Elon, obviously. Elon's the closest. Elon has banged the drum the hardest saying that this is nothing. There is no aliens. Yeah, he's like if there are aliens, he's like they have not attempted to contact us. Is Is he team simulation? He's the one I seen that he gave me the option. He said mathematically the odds of being in a simulation border on 100%. Mathematically. I feel like no, I feel like that I hate that that conversation cuz there's a framing issue. It's like okay, there's no simulation or we'll be advanced enough to create a simulation or we're in a simulation or simulation don't exist. I feel like we forget about that first thing. We just get into the one, two, three of it all. And that's why you're 67% to be in a simulation or going to be in a simulation. The problem is like at some point you have to base your logic on something. Once you anchor your logic on the world that I'm experiencing right now actually exists, simulated or otherwise, but it actually exists, then you run into the problem of we are creating a simulation. Everything tells us that a simulation that is indistinguishable from reality is possible. And so, once you're like okay, there are simulations that are indistinguishable from reality. Oh, and by the way, when I look at the laws of physics, it really does operate like a simulation would operate. Provably, meaning the universe is not locally real. Okay? So, the universe is rendered. The universe renders. There's There's no better way to say it. So, we know that the universe isn't locally real. We've proven that experimentally. So, we know that it effectively renders. Um and everything tells us that we can create a simulation. So, it's like uh-oh, you start stacking those things and if we can create a simulation, then what would we likely simulate? Ourselves. Okay? If you'll give me both of those leaps, once you give me those two leaps, then the odds that you're not in a simulation become vanishingly small. If you don't give those two, if you believe you can create a simulation, but no one will ever simulate ourselves or you just can't create a simulation, then it's like okay, well, then yes. Upon your logic, which I reject wholeheartedly, but if that were the logic, then okay, at least you have internal consistency. You'd have a hard time explaining what's going to stop us from doing it right now, but which would then invalidate your hypothesis that it's not possible, but so yeah, mathematically odds are you're in a simulation. Let's do it first. Is this an alien? Poll says 56% of you say no. Yeah Yes is 44%. 56% no. 44% yes. Yeah, I'm in the no camp. It's I want it to be though. Oh, dry your eyeballs too. Yeah, there's going to be some really mundane explanation and I didn't involve myself in this until now because it was like not coming until the end of October and when I first heard about it was like July or something. I was like I'm not going to think about this. Now that it's today, I'm going to be checking my feed every hour to figure out if this is real. And man, do I want it to be true. That would be so cool. I would love that so much. Somebody said it's an alien tour bus and those are phone flashes. That's hysterical. On your left, we have the sun. That's another part of this. Do you know how long at the speeds that they're traveling they would have had to have been traveling? Like even if we say, well, no, no, no, they traveled at near the speed of light for the vast majority of the journey and now they're just slowing down, they'd still have been traveling just for the length of time that we've been able to pick them up is months and months and months. So, what would they send? AI, maybe? And that's like a ship full of like processors? I don't know, but it just all becomes very like why would they do this? Dark forest is a very interesting concept. If you have not read The Three-Body Problem, read it. And they just did a show, too. I was supposed to watch it then I forgot. If somebody built a perfect simulation, first of all, AI would live inside of it. AI would probably get to the point where it would not know that it's AI. So, let's start with that. And then on top of that, I think people if if we have physical bodies, I think people will spend the vast majority of their time inside the simulation. They will come out of the simulation only if they have meaningful personal relationships, which on a long enough timeline most people will not. And or to preen their physical body essentially. If we're not able to just so dystopian, suspended in vats or whatever. But your life inside the simulation will be meaningful if that helps. All right, guys, that's it. Make sure you join us for Halloween on Friday. Be ready for it. Love you guys all. Thank you for another wonderful episode and we will see you next time. Later. If you like this conversation, check out this episode to learn more. Trump promises if Hamas doesn't chill, their end will be fast, furious, and brutal. He also essentially declared war on Mexican drug cartels and BLM. Candace lights the internet on fire by Mhm.