2 Nerds Talking: Me and Earl and the Dying Girl by Jesse Andrews
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In this episode of "2 Nerds Talking," hosts Liam and Agnes discuss Jesse Andrews' 2012 novel *Me and Earl and the Dying Girl*, a story that blends humor with heavy themes of mortality. The book follows Greg, an insecure teenager who makes low-budget movies with his eccentric best friend, Earl, as they navigate their senior year of high school while caring for Rachel, a classmate suffering from leukemia. Although the narrative deals with a depressing subject matter, the authors highlight how the book successfully balances this darkness with comedy and creativity, utilizing a script-like format that mimics teenage dialogue to make the reading experience more detached and engaging. The setting in their final year of high school is crucial to the plot, as it emphasizes the theme of transition and the characters' realistic fears regarding college and adulthood.
The hosts praise the book's unique style, noting its playful tone and clever use of formatting, which reflects the scatterbrained perspective of a teenage boy. While they acknowledge that Greg's constant self-deprecation can sometimes feel repetitive or annoying, similar to the ungrateful nature often found in 2012 humor, they argue that this flaw is minor compared to the story's overall fun and inventiveness. The narrative effectively portrays the internal struggles of Greg, who lacks confidence, against the external challenges faced by his friends Earl and Rachel, who have their lives more together. Liam particularly favors Earl as the most interesting character due to his weirdness and silly humor, while Agnes appreciates how Earl serves as a grounding "straight man" to Greg's chaotic inner monologue.
Moving into the spoiler section, the discussion turns to Rachel's tragic fate and the book's predictable yet well-executed conclusion. The hosts describe the famous "F moment," where Greg and Earl get high after trying their teacher's mysterious "Oracle" machine, as a hilarious and memorable scene that showcases the book's ability to find joy even in dark situations. They note that while the relationship between Greg and Rachel is complicated by her illness and public perception of them dating, the lack of forced romance feels authentic to life rather than saccharine. However, they also touch upon the criticism that Rachel might feel like a plot device for Greg's character arc, a point the author attempts to address through meta-commentary but which can still feel inconsistent within his stream-of-consciousness narration.
Ultimately, Liam and Agnes recommend the book as a truthful and well-crafted depiction of high school life, tragedy, and human selfishness, rating it around six or seven out of ten. They appreciate that the story avoids being overly sentimental despite its heavy subject matter, instead offering a raw look at how teenagers react to loss and friendship. The hosts conclude by encouraging viewers who haven't read the book yet to pick up a copy from their local library, specifically mentioning Long Beach Public Library, before signing off with their usual quirky sign-off about researching alien vomit.
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hi welcome to another episode of T nerds
talkinging I'm Liam and I'm Agnes and
this time we're trying out a new format
that we'll probably keep for the rest of
our videos we like we do a spoilers free
commentary section in the beginning and
then at the end we have a section with
spoilers in it where we like discuss the
ending of the book and stuff for those
who have already read it or who just
don't really care yes and today we're
talking about me and and the dying Girl
by Jess Andrews it came out in 2012 and
it's very apparent that it came out in
2012 mhm uh the story follows this guy
named Greg uh and his friend that make
movies uh eventually making a movie for
a girl with leukemia who's dying of it
hence the title mhm it's a it's a pretty
depressing book yeah but it's still
funny you know it is it is still funny
how did you feel about the sense of
comedy in it um I thought it was funny I
thought it was very there was also a lot
of segments that are in list format
there's just there's a lot of
interesting like messing around with uh
words and like formatting and um I think
it's really creative and I and I like it
and it definitely feels like like some
teenage boys scatterbrained attempt to
write a book like it's a very playful
weird book and I think like for the
style of dialogue that it's going for um
it can be kind of grading because it's
like what a teenager would be going
through and like conversations with like
parents and friends and stuff so it's
kind of nicer to read it in that script
format because it's a little bit more
like you know it's easier to read CU
there's less words more detached yeah
it's more detached mhm oh and uh I don't
know if we forgot to mention this yet or
not but it's set in high school it's
both um it's all of their senior year
actually of the three main characters
and I think that plays like an important
role in the story like it wouldn't
really work if they were in like middle
school or like a different year of high
school school I think it's very
important um yeah yeah and it is
definitely very much about I feel like
transition and so the fact that's their
last year it's it's it works yeah
obviously yeah and they talk about like
college and stuff and I think it
portrays like that feeling of being
someone who like makes casual little
movies with your friends as we do um I
think it portrays that super
realistically like I read parts of it
and I was like wow this is like so
relatable I've literally experienced
this before like when um he like
mentioned his movies to someone and they
were like oh you should like submit
those to a college and and go to like
film school with your little films and
it's like my movies aren't that good you
know they're just for for fun so uh
would do you recommend this book to
anyone and like what's your rating out
of out of 10 um my rating it' probably
be like a solid seven out of 10 um it
can kind of feel like it's repeating
itself and how much it says that Greg is
insecure and that he hates himself but
um that's sort of a a minor annoyance if
you're reading it cuz it is so fun and
playful and there is so much other
interesting stuff going on in the story
that that doesn't interfere too much but
it can get annoying I'd probably give it
yeah like like a six or seven I totally
agree that the self-deprecating nature
of a lot of the humor 2012 um can be a
little tiresome like he says stuff like
he's genuinely like why are you reading
this stupid book like stop reading this
stupid book like it's so dumb and stupid
like I'm reading the book man come on
like be a little appreciative it's like
the it's like that level of
self-deprecation that's a little like
ungrateful which I guess is true to the
teenage boy experience but still it
definitely can be kind of annoying to
read but it's still good um I think
we've talked enough about the main
character Greg I think we should talk
about the two other titula characters
Earl in the the dying girl yes what were
your thoughts on them did you like them
did you like them more than Greg which
one of them I definitely like as as like
a person forming an opinion on Greg even
though he's fake as a person I like Earl
and Rachel more yeah um but I definitely
think Greg you know works better as the
center of the story just because Earl
and Rachel even though Rachel has
leukemia obviously they both have their
life together and that's how they play
off Greg cuz Greg does not and Greg has
a lot of issues and or internal issues
and Rachel and Earl both have more
external issues right and you could
obviously make a movie about them but
you'd have to change the whole story
yeah the narration probably wouldn't be
as like just like depthy and interesting
yeah but yeah I think as
characters um just thinking of them as
such I really like Earl the most he's so
interesting and weird and funny I kind
of prefer his sense of humor over Greg's
I don't know what that says about me but
but I love Earl he's like so weird and
silly and his I just like I want to hop
inside his mind and see what's going on
in there no he's definitely like the
best character in the book I think and I
do love how he's like a he's like at the
straight man to Greg's like
self-deprecating insanity just constant
self-hate okay so we are going to talk
about Rachel but we're going to put that
in the uh spoiler section which we'll be
starting right now so just you
pre-readers and risky kids can watch
this section don't any spoilers scroll
we're going to be spoiling the whole
book just read it first and then come
back and watch it go check it out from
the library come on yeah okay okay
spoiler section spoiler section Rachel's
character she dies I will say the plot
of the book is pretty predictable it's
like yeah they're in high school he's
kind of a weird little guy it it all
turns out pretty much exactly how you
expect it to turn out by the end but it
was still pretty good and it has a lot
of good little moments along the way
like the F moment the F moment oh my God
that was like my favorite part of the
whole book The F moment is hilarious um
oh my God it's so good a quick synopsis
if you forgot or if you are being risky
and haven't read the book um Earl and
Greg are best friends with this teacher
and he's like kind of crazy yeah he's a
weird teacher and he he he has this um
ther full of F that he calls the Oracle
that is just in his office and they ask
to try it one day and he says no and he
leaves the room and they try adamant
about it mhm and then once uh he leaves
they go and try it and then they end up
stoned out of their
minds are we allowed to talk about this
okay they end up there was drugs there
was drugs in that they are on drugs for
like 30 pages and it's a delight to read
a very funny scene Greg is a mess Greg
is a total mess and he has to go and
talk to Rachel uh who is yeah dying of
leukemia so she's a little depressing
yeah it is it is pretty rough so Greg
and Rachel's relationship is kind of
strange yeah yeah everyone at school
thinks they're dating because they're a
guy and girl that are friends but really
they're just friends yeah yeah they're
just buddies and it's like really
complicated because she's dying so you
know they don't really know how much
they can get done with their friendship
and like how much they can actually do
so it's still kind of like standoffish
the whole time you know because they see
no point in it but it's it's not it's
like interesting but I love that it's
not like sacarin you know it's very real
uh with the way that his character is
he's very selfish in a way that's so
true to being a teenager and just being
like a human being you know I think
everyone is a lot more selfish than they
like to admit but he's very truthful and
I think the whole book is a really
truthful
depiction of being in high school and
experiencing a tragedy and how people
react to that you know MH um yeah and I
thought it was great and usually with
that stuff it's like way too sappy and
just like yeah just way too like sacon
and I hate it but um this one was really
well done it didn't overdo it it was if
anything not sweet enough but yeah I
thought it was really well done another
thing about the style that I really
loved was how you can tell that this guy
just has a lot more experience writing
movie scripts because there's so many
great callbacks within it it's like
watch it's like binge watching a bunch
of episodes of Full House like the the
callbacks are so good like in the
earlier part of the book uh when the F
things h f thing happens their teacher
recommends them a restaurant and the
book ends with them going to that
restaurant and I just love all of that
stuff it makes it really enjoyable to
read yeah I enjoyed that there was a
lack of romance between him and Rachel
usually I feel like most romances and
stuff are so forced you know it's like
this doesn't need to be here but that
was like there wasn't actually much of
that at all and I thought that was
really nice but I feel like the way that
his whole Arc revolves around like the
death of Rachel mostly it's like I don't
know it just felt kind of weird like
she's just like a a prop in the story I
wish that they had talked more about her
but I guess that wouldn't be true to
life cuz it's based off of Jess Andrew's
like actual life
experiences I don't know yeah it does I
feel like it was not a conscious choice
but it does feel at some points and
after thinking about it that like Rachel
died to serve this random white
teenager's like character AR but I feel
like it denies that in the book and then
actively does that you know I feel like
he does a lot of that like
self-aware like you know stating issue
with the book but he misses a lot and he
says stuff and then still does it you
know it's like when someone's like oh
like I don't like to say mean stuff but
and then they say something mean like
you're still saying something mean he's
constantly lampshading and that's he's
const that's yeah and that's true to a
teenage boy but again when you're
reading a book that's just his stream of
Consciousness and his like thought
process it gets annoying oh yeah thanks
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