1 & 2 Corinthians| Lecture 7 : BC304-1&2 Cor-20260904

Okay, recording has started. All right, so welcome to the next lecture on 1 Corinthians. So, uh, in this lecture we're going to go through 1 Corinthians chapter 5. Now, the context before starting chapter 5 is that, you know, so far Paul has been addressing what? Divisions. There's a lot of divisions. There's lot of groups, right? And so now Paul will shift to an other issue. Okay, so chapter five, you need to uh fasten your seat belt cuz a little crazy uh you know what what all he writes and how how we how we should deal with these issues. Okay. So in chapter 5 he will start about a second issue that is happening. Okay. So we will divide chapter 5 into three sections. Verse 1 to5 verse 6 to8 and verse 9-13. Okay. Verse 1 to5 verse 6 to8 verse 9-13. So can I just request one of us here to read 1 Corinthians chapter 5 verse 1 to5 please? It is actually reported that there is uh sexual immorality among you and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate. A man is sleeping with his father's wife and you are proud. Shouldn't you uh shouldn't you rather have gone into morning and have put out of your uh fellowship the man who has been doing this? For my part, even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. As one who is present with you in this way, I have already passed judgment in the name of our Lord Jesus on the one who has been doing this. So when you are assembled and I am with you in spirit and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, hand his man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord. >> Yeah. So 1 Corinthians chapter 5, I told you fasten your seat belt. It starts in verse one only. Verse one, what does it say? It is actually reported. So there's a report that came to Paul that there is sexual immorality. So so far in the first four chapters we've not we've only talked about divisions. Chapter 5 is another issue in the church and the issue is there is a report something someone has told Paul that there is sexual immorality among you and then he gives a he writes about a specific man what is the look at the level of sexual immorality that there is a man who is sleeping with his father's wife now many scholars think that it is his it must be his stepmother. We don't know. It's just speculation. But regardless, the truth of the matter is he this man, this young man is sleeping with his father's wife. I mean and what Paul writes, he says it is it is so shocking to hear that this is coming from a church because even the Gentiles like it is even worse off than some of the Gentiles is what he writes. So he writes in verse 5, oh man, this noise is it'll go. Okay, we'll just wait for sorry there's a okay okay that let's read verse one again as such sexual immorality is not even named among the Gentiles meaning it is so bad that even some of the Gentiles don't talk about this it is that bad like for a man to sleep with his father's wife that's why he writes father's wife not that's Most scholars think it's stepmother because he doesn't call it mother, right? So, stepmother most likely, but just speculation. So, so he's saying such a sin is there in the church. This is no no longer about division. He's moved on to the next issue. The next issue is this issue sexual immorality and not any kind of sexual immorality. Sexual immorality that is sometimes even the Gentiles won't talk about it. Even they will be ashamed. Then he says it is it has become the culture has become so bad in the church with this sin that they have become proud. So verse two and three verse verse 2 verse 2 3 4 and 5 verse two it says and you are puffed up. Puffed up simply means proud. Why are they proud? Because they have tolerated this sin. They have allowed this sin to be there. They have allowed this man to live unrepented, unwilling to change. So seven years have gone by and so somewhere along the point this this sin has happened and they have tolerated it. They are proud. You have been puffed up and have not rather moaned. Meaning this kind of sin should actually grieve. The heart of God is grieved when we sin. And so we need to grieve. And he's saying this sin is so bad that you've not even moaned. That's how proud you are. That is how like that's how much this has gotten into. That's how much the culture is. That you are proud that you have not even mourned that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you. So he's giving first the culture then he's giving the instruction. What is the instruction? That he be taken away remove him from the fellowship. Why? We will read verse three. For I indeed as absent in the body. So Paul is writing this letter from another place. He's absent. He's not there physically. Right? I indeed absent in the body but present in spirit have already judged. Okay. Wait, pause. Didn't we just read in the last two chapters we shouldn't judge? So what is Paul writing here that I have already judged this man? See judgment because sometimes it sounds contradictory, right? He's writing I don't judge myself. My the only judge is the lord whom is the righteous judge. So how do we understand this? Because he just wrote about judgment uh in chapter 3 and four. How do we understand this? How is he saying that I have already judged I have passed my judgment on this man? What is the judgment? Remove him from fellowship. Why? Because that the previous time when he wrote about judgment is about people's hearts, about their motives, about their eternal destiny. That only God can judge. Only God can judge people's hearts. What is Paul judging here? His sinful behavior. his sinful actions. So don't think that okay we are not supposed to judge anything. No, we can call out we cannot tolerate sinful behavior, sinful actions that go against the heart of God. Are we understanding? When you pass judgment simply means you're passing your authority. That's what happens, right? When we pass judgment. And so Paul is the apostle Paul is passing a judgment here. And then he writes he writes in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. Whenever you gather in church we gather in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, when you gather together along with my spirit with the power of our Lord Jesus, deliver such one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh that his spirit may be saved in the day of our Lord Jesus. So what is so he's repeating the instruction first you take him away out of fellowship. Then he continues that whenever you gather together, if any fellowship happens in the name of our Lord Jesus in this church, this man should be removed from fellowship. And then he uses a very interesting statement. He says, "Deliver such a man to Satan." When you read that, you're like, "Whoa, what is this, Paul?" Like what are you writing? This is a very very like that's why I said fasten your seat belt. There are some statements in this chapter is like sometimes sounds very very intense. So what does this mean? So I want to I want to explain this slowly and let's try and understand this. Okay. So it says no problem sir no worries I apologize for being late. He writes no problem. So he says remove such a man that such a man should be delivered to Satan. It simply means remove him from the protection of fellowship. Remove him from the protection. Put this person outside of fellowship and spiritual covering. Okay. So because he is unwilling to change, because this sin is continuous, because this sin is tolerated, because the sin is so serious, Paul is giving this instruction. So that that phrase deliver such a man to Satan simply means he is not like Paul is saying don't he's not going to hell. What does that mean? He's saying remove him from fellowship. So when you're not part of fellowship, what happens? You're in the world. Correct? Right. So that's what and and in the world who is ruling >> Satan. >> Satan. That's what it means. So when you remove him from deliver him from Satan, it simply means remove him from fellow fellowship spiritual covering. When we are part of church, we need to understand that we are part of a spiritual house. The house of God, there is a spiritual covering. Are we understanding? With Jesus who is our cornerstone, he is building this house. And because this man is unwilling to change, because this man is unrepented, because he has caused a culture where people are proud, where the church is proud, they have tolerated the sin, it has caused such it it has caused such a bad culture. Paul is giving the instruction, deliver him to Satan. What does that mean? Deliver him outside. Keep him outside of fellowship. But why? Why? Now it sounds very harsh for Paul to give this instruction. Correct? Does it sound harsh? Yes. You're literally Paul is literally telling remove him. I don't him I don't want him to be part of fellowship. It's like saying to your own family member, please go outside of the house. It's literally saying that. Let's not mince our words. But why why does he say that? So he says for the destruction of the flesh and two things for the destruction of the flesh that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord. So two things why is he giving this instruction there's a reason one for the destruction of his flesh. Second that his spirit may be saved. So what does this mean? Destruction of the flesh. The word flesh here. Now when the Bible writes flesh, it has a lot of meanings. It means body. It means people. But the word flesh here simply means a sinful desire. Our flesh has appetites. But these appetites when they are not put properly can lead to sin. Example gluttony. Our body likes to eat food, right? But every day if you eat tell me some bad jellybee every day if you eat one tub of ice cream that's gluttony. So in the same way so that's what he's saying for the destruction of the flesh keep him out of fellowship so that he can take time to die to his flesh. let him repent and then when his flesh is destroyed what will happen he'll be saved see Paul is giving such a harsh instruction but you can see his heart to save him he's doing this to save him sometimes in ministry in church especially as pastors and leaders you know being a pastor or a leader it's not easy sometimes you have to do things like this when the culture is bad. When people are proud, when we are tolerating sin, when it becomes so big, we have to do such a thing where we will have to make a decision. We have to be bold enough, courageous enough by the authority that God has given us as shepherds, as leaders, as pastors to do such an instruction. Now, I want you to keep in mind this. Now let's go to 1 Timothy 1 19-20 because Paul dealt similarly with two men like this in Ephesus 1 Timothy 1 verse 19-20 there are two men called Haimeus and Alexanderus and Alexander because they were in error Paul gave this instruction to be guard to watch out for them. Don't let them influence the church in Ephesus. 1 Timothy 1 19 to20. But what I'm trying to say is this is the only time maybe three or four times you can count. 1 Corinthians chapter 5, 1 Timothy 1 19-20 are the only times where God gives where Paul gives such a harsh instruction. Meaning this is not an instruction out of the norm. It's not normal. Paul doesn't see when there were divisions did he say go out of the church? No. But because of the severity of the sin, because of the culture, because it has become so bad, because they have tolerated it, Paul has given this harsh instruction. So sometimes in ministry we need to understand not always not the norm sometimes like where Paul writes in first 1 Corinthians chapter 5 1 Timothy 1 19 and 20 for these two men and and along with this man he tells them to be removed from fellowship. But what is the heart? So that they may repent. They may repent and be saved. You know what is amazing? They did that. He did that this man because in um in uh where is that? I think it's in first 2 Corinthians in the second letter uh okay I can't find it but in the second letter this man is restored and Paul says come back to fellowship. So you see he has given the instruction but we don't leave them there. We watch over them. We we we see how their life is and once they have been dead to their flesh dead repented once they have done that call them back. So you see see the heart of the apostle Paul right that he tells him to go out of fellowship deliver him to Satan so that he may be destroyed by his flesh. take some time to think about what he has done and unless he has truly repented, call him back so that he might be saved. This is the heart of a pastor. This is the heart of an apostle where we don't just give harsh instructions where we don't just give harsh judgments but those are for ultimately for them to repent. Now this is not the norm. only we do these things only when the situation calls for it. This is not the norm. We don't see Paul writing this instruction for us to remove people just like that. Are we understanding right? So we need to read this very carefully. Read this in context. So there will be some points maybe in church life or fellowship where we will need to give certain instructions to people because their sin is infiltrating and it's causing a culture of tolerance and God does not want that. So he's given that instruction. Are we understanding first five verses right? So what is the first five verses all about? It's about action against sin. how to take action against ongoing sin in the local church. Amen. So we need to we need to understand that. So, so it's sorry. So, it's 2 Corinthians 10:8 where I wanted to find that verse. 2 Corinthians 10:8 where he restores the person. 2 Corinthians 10 verse 8:E3 he sorry 10:8 10 these two verses of scripture where this man has repented and he calls him back to fellowship. Right? So, the first five verses is talking about a new issue. What's the new issue? Sexual immorality. And he will continue that thought in the next chapter, chapter five and six. He spends time on sexual immorality. Right? So what did we learn in the first five first five chapters? There's a new issue, sexual immor immorality. There's a man sleeping with his uh father's wife. And Paul addresses the issue. He gives an instruction. He passes judgment. So being in church does not mean we ignore people's sin. No, we can we can call call it out. We we shouldn't tolerate. Sometimes even if leaders do it, we shouldn't just let it go. If you see something that is wrong in the local church, you need to call it out. You need to tell you need to tell either the pastor or whoever in the fellowship hey such a thing is happening so that leadership can intervene even if it's other leaders. Are we understanding? Yeah. So you know any form of sin shouldn't be just covered. Don't tolerate it. If people sin in the church you grieve your heart because it grieves God's heart. Are we understanding? Shall we go to the next section? Yeah. verse 6 to8. I hope the first five verses are clear. Shall we go? Verse 6 to8. Can someone read verse 6 to8 maybe online? 1 Corinthians chapter 5 verse 6 to8. Your gloring is not good. Do you not know that a little leven the whole lump? Therefore, purge out the whole leven that you may be a new lump since you truly are unleven. For indeed Christ our Passover was sacrificed for us. Therefore let us keep the feast not with the old living nor with the leven of mellies and wickedness but with the unleven bread of sincerity and truth >> and truth. Amen. So 1 Corinthians 5 6 to8 he is continuing the train of thought. So he is saying first your glorying is not good your boasting your proudness is not good. Why? Because do you not know that a little leven levens the whole lump? What is he talking about? He's talking about bread. When you put little yeast, the whole bread gets So what is he talking about? What is he just talking about? The sin. If you tolerate this sin, it affects the whole body. It affects the whole local church. And so he's saying your boasting, your tolerance. See, this is what happens when you tolerate sin in your own life and in the church. When you don't address it, this little sin affects everything. So sometimes we think, oh yeah, you know, it's a small thing or it's a big thing and we ignore it. But this is what happens when we ignore. It becomes like yeast in unleavened bread. This yeast when it's in the unleavened bread makes the whole bread leavenven, right? And so the Israelites in the Passover, they would only eat of the unleavened bread. There would be no yeast. What does that mean? Because that bread is pure. There's no yeast. So they would celebrate the Passover Egypt to Israel by breaking unleavened bread. He is comparing that to the issue here. You are actually supposed to be in Christ. He's saying you're supposed to be pure, but because you're proud, because you're boasting, you're glorying, he writes the word, you're glorying is not good. And he says, do you not know that a little yeast can affect the whole bread? Same way. And then he says in um verse 7, therefore purge out the old leaven. Purge out simply means purify. Only have unleavened bread. Purge out. Verse 7. Therefore purge out the old leaven that you may be new. You may be a new lump since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ our Passover. So Jesus is our unleavened bread. Are we understanding? Jesus is a perfect sacrifice. There is no impurity in him. Jesus Christ our Passover was sacrificed for us. Therefore let us keep the feast. Meaning therefore let us fellowship with Jesus without any leaven, without any yeast. So that we may be pure. The body may be pure. Pure as Christ is pure. As we fellowship with him, we become pure. Don't let any yeast, don't let any other thing come in the way of our fellowship with God. That's what he's saying. Feast. Are you understanding? Therefore, let us keep the feast not with old leaven. So he's saying leave all your sinful desires. Repent from that and fellowship with Christ. Oh leaven, nor with leavenven of malice and wickedness, but with unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. Meaning you fellowship with Jesus from a pure heart, from a genuine heart, from a honest heart. Sincerity and truth, where there is no lies, no deception. This is how we should fellowship with God. Where all the masks fall off. We come before Christ with sincerity and truth. Are we understanding? Yes. So verse 6 to8 he is basically following the train of thought that because you are proud in verse two he says this is what is happening. It is making the whole body it is affecting the whole body. So purge yourself purify yourself remove this. That's why he says remove this man from the fellowship. deliver him to Satan. So whenever someone is delivered to Satan, understand this is removing from not not telling him to go to hell or whatever it simply means don't be part of the fellowship until you repent then you can come back. Amen. Okay. Shall we go to the next section? Yeah. Is this fine? Verse 9 to13. Verse 9-13. Can someone read that here in person please? 1 Corinthians chapter 5:9-13 verse 9-13 I wrote to you in my epistol not to keep company with sexual immoral people yet I certainly did not mean with the sexual immoral people of this world or with the coaches or exoners or idolators since then you would need to go out of the world But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother who is sexually immoral or covetous or an idolator or re reviler or a drunkard or extoroner. Not even to eat with such such a person. For what I have for what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not know? Do you not judge those who are inside but those who are outside God judges. Therefore put away from yourself the evil person. >> Yeah. Verse 9 to13 Paul is basically he is he is kind of clarifying or building his case on why he gave that instruction. He is basically going more deeper into his explanation on why he gave this instruction in the letter to move to remove this person out of fellowship. Verse 9, let's read verse 9. I wrote to you in my in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. I wrote to you in my epistle which means scholars say many people believe that Paul actually would have written an earlier letter but we do not know uh or or you know we do not have any record of it as as a cannon of scripture right so he's writing in verse 9 I wrote to you in my epistle which means he's writing this letter and he's saying I wrote to you in my epistle which means there was some letter that was written before and what was written in that letter to keep do not keep company with sexual immoral people and now he's writing some years later or I we don't know the time that they have tolerated this sin meaning he has already instructed the church not to keep company but they are now tolerating this sin this culture right So, so we really don't know. We we um we don't have a record of it. Nobody knows where this letter is. But point is that he has written before about this issue and they are still living in that. Okay. Now verse 10 to 13 Paul is basically clarifying something. See he said I have I'm not present physically in body but in spirit and I have put my judgment on this person. So he's clarifying don't judge people of the world. Let them live their life. You because you are in the world. Don't judge people in the world. Let them live their life. God will judge their heart and their actions. So you don't need to go if you are part of church. You don't need to go outside church and tell everyone, "Hey, turn from your wicked ways unless God has really told you that." Okay? Unless you are like John the Baptist in the wilderness only if God has told you do that. But we don't put judgment to those who are living in the world. They are already living in sin. They're part of a sinful culture. They're living in sin. Right? One more thing about the sexual immorality is see in the Corinthian culture this was very very um very very prevalent. Roman emperors used to be bisexual or even homosexual. Prostitution was a very very big thing. Right? So what he's saying is I know you're living in a very sinful culture. Don't judge the people in that. But what is he saying? He's saying but you can judge sinful behavior in the church. Don't neglect that. So he's basically building his case, right? Don't neglect. Just because you're in church, don't neglect. Just because he's a brother or a sister or a leader or a pastor, don't neglect. Are we understanding? So I'll read verse 10 to 13 again. Verse 10. Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world or with the covetous or extortioners or idolattors since then you would need to go out of the world meaning what he's saying is I did not mean for you to judge outside the world outside the church otherwise you have to go to every street and tell did not mean that verse 11 but now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother who is sexually immoral. So you see the word brother. So if he is part of fellowship, if he is part of church and he's living in this sin, there is a sinful behavior, call it out. Warn the brother. Are you understanding? Yeah. Let's read further. Or covetous or an idoltor. So he's saying not only people who are sexually immoral, he's saying covetous or an idoltor or a reviler or a drunkard or an ex extortionist. So he's giving a list like like one full list. If they're in idolatry, warn them. If they're co living in covetousness, warn them. If they're living as a reviler, a drunkard, someone who struggles with alcohol, and you see it that they struggling with this, warn them. You can judge their works, judge their sinful attitude, sinful behavior. Warn them. Verse 12, for what have I to do with judging those who are outside? We don't have anything to do with judging the world outside. God will judge. Do you not judge outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside, God judges. Those who are outside, don't worry about them. God will take care of them. God will convict them. God will either lead them. God will judge them. Therefore, put yourselves, put away from yourselves the evil person. Who's the evil person? The person who is writing to take away. Put yourselves. Basically he's ending chapter 5 with what he started with the instruction. He says therefore what does therefore mean this is why put yourself away from the evil person. Let's go to 2 Thessalonians. This is just a side quest. 2 Thessalonians chapter 3. 2 Thessalonians chapter 3 verse 14 and 15. 2 Thessalonians chapter 3 verse 14 and 15. I'll read it. And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person. So if anyone is not obeying in the church, note observe that person. Note that person and do not keep company with him that he may be ashamed. Do not keep company. If someone who is in Christ continues to sin, continues to do the sinful behavior. See, obviously we have to give grace. We'll talk about grace right after this. But if he is, this is not changing. It's going on and on. It is affecting people. Note that person and do not keep company with him that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as a enemy. Meaning don't don't put judgment on his heart. Don't call him your enemy but admonish him. Warn him as a brother. See this whole chapter is talking about one thing. Don't tolerate sinful behavior in the church. It's the simple summary in all these passages that we read in all these verses. Don't tolerate sinful behavior. If it is ongoing, if it is unrepented, if it is continuous, no change, it's affecting the culture of the church, address it. And sometimes as a pastor, as a leader, as a congregation member, you will have to bring this up. You will have to take very tough decisions. Are we understanding? Sometimes pastors is not only all love, love, love. Sometimes it's tough. You have to do these things. You have to take certain very tough decisions. Imagine telling someone please move out of church. And we have done that actually in church like in in our local church where uh people have been warned but because they have not changed we had to tell them please for a while please be outside we'll see maybe after some time if you have changed we'll talk again are we understanding right so this is the tough part now I have a question what about grace Paul is the one who writes about grace. What about grace in all this? But the point is grace without truth cannot go hand in hand. Grace without truth cannot go hand in hand. Who is Jesus? Full of grace and truth. Jesus is full of grace, full of truth. See, here's the thing. Grace without truth is not real grace. It becomes false love. Are we understanding? Grace, write that down. Grace without truth is not real grace. It is false love. If you only show grace without truth, it's false love. Truth without grace is not real truth. It becomes rigid. It's harsh. Are we understanding? Jesus is the perfect example. He is fully grace, fully truth. That is why when the woman was caught in adultery. What does he say? Go your way. Your sins are forgiven. Right? But he gives her an instruction. Are we understanding? Do not let this define you going forward. So he showed grace but he also gave the truth. You remember that right? John chapter 8 where the Pharisees come he he shows grace to that woman but he tells this woman do not let this be part of your identity. meaning that this woman should walk freely. That is what true freedom looks like. When you walk in grace and you walk in truth where you receive the grace of God and you walk in the truth of God. Okay? So, you know, we we read these passages and we we we encounter these instructions from Paul and we wonder, oh, where is grace? Where is love? Where is brotherly fellowship? Where is all this? But we need to hold this in balance. Truth and grace. What is the truth? That this brother is sinning. So we can't tolerate, we can't show grace to him when he is against the truth. When he's living against the truth. Amen. And I believe this is just my personal personal thing that uh why didn't Paul tell this about division. If the church would have told the whole church to leave why only this man I believe because it was very very severe. The whole church was talking about it. This this is just my speculation or my observation is that because it got to an extent where it just the whole culture It ruined the whole culture. That's why such a harsh instruction. Amen. Any any questions? Chapter five. Before we close chapter 5, any any questions? Short chapter, but yes. Go ahead. >> As Paul says, no. Uh if a brother sins give hand him over to Shatan >> and he will go back in the world and if he backslides is there any possibility will he come back as in in Hebrews 6 chapter it says no if the person who is backslided it is impossible to come back to >> yeah so see Paul writes in that same verse let's read that again right in that same verse he writes verse five deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. So when we remove such a person from fellowship what should be our prayer that they repent that they come back. So when you give the instruction when you give the see a lot of us want to give the instruction but what should the instruction come with grace love we are doing this to you because we want you to change we want you to come back okay so now our prayer should be that but ultimately who should change he should change we can't control their life we can't keep banging his head hey change change Right? We have done enough. He has done enough. Enough enough damage has been done. So when we give such an instruction, what should be our prayer? That God will deal with that sin, destruction of the flesh so that he may be saved, repent, come back. And we know in 2 Corinthians that he came back. That is the heart of all of us. That should be the heart for all of us. where just because of his sinful desire we don't pass judgment on his heart we are giving judgment on his work on his behavior but what should be our prayer lord change his heart change his desire change his behavior so that he comes back if we don't do this prayer then we I mean all of us are sinners all of us are sinners we are saved by grace through faith Regardless of our sin, Peter denied Christ three times. Yet, he went to meet him in John chapter 17. I think it's 19. I might get confused. But, you know, Jesus met him to restore him. That should be our heart, right? So, we should pray for them. Pray that they may change. Pray that their hearts, Lord, somehow speak to them. Their hearts are hardened. Speak to them. Yeah. Any other questions? Was that answering your question? >> Just take your mic. Mike mic. Yeah. Uh >> what about that Hebrews 6 chapter verse? Hebrew say it is impossible to the person who is gone away from the Lord. >> Sorry. Sorry. >> The person who is gone away from the Lord. It is impossible for him to come back in Hebrews chapter 6. You want to read that verse? Yes. >> There's another question here, Shubam. But yeah, we we'll we'll go to that. >> Hebrews 6:4. >> Yeah. >> For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened >> and have tested the heavenly gift and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit. >> So it's very impossible. >> Yeah. So it's impossible in the sense that because we have received grace and truth because we have received the salvation message right but what should be what's the responsibility on our side to stay in that walk in that right because we are spirit soul body so our spirit holy spirit is in our spirit our soul we have a soul we we have a soul that is attached to the spirit but it also has a natural mind. We have a body. Our flesh, whatever we receive from the spirit needs to go to the flesh. It needs to die. So as we walk in Christ, we need to subject our flesh to him. But this man in 1 Corinthians chapter 5, he is he is part of the fellowship. But because he gave in to his sinful appetites, see when we receive Jesus does not mean our flesh immediately dies. It's a process of sanctification, right? And so we need to guard against that. And this person because he gave into that Paul is giving this instruction. You need to die to your flesh. Oops. >> So that your flesh will be destroyed, right? And you repent and come back, right? So yeah. So um the point is that our spirit, soul and body should be subject to God. Amen. So see if I can explain it another way. Um what happened to Judas? He walked with Jesus for thousand days. Peter also walked with Jesus for thousand days but two destinies. One went and ended his life. One was restored. Right? So it's an ongoing journey step by step. Right? Yes. our spirit we are saved there's no doubt about it but there is the flesh there's our mind that needs to be renewed every day to become more and more like Christ and that's an ongoing journey right um okay we got two more minutes sir can you explain that part a little more how can a person be saved saved if we leave him oh yeah okay so yeah so uh Shubam basically in verse 5 the person is part of fellowship he might be saved and Paul is saying to be out of fellowship why because this sin is causing a culture where they are proud they are tolerating the sin right and so how can he be saved that's what Paul writes like we need to pray for him that he might take some time out. Maybe when he's in the world, he'll realize what he has done. He'll repent and then we will we'll see. But the point is he can't be he can't keep coming to church and keep you know ruining the culture, ruining people because it made the church proud, made the church tolerate sin and that is making the whole church going it it's taking them to a a worse place, right? And so that's why so how how can a person be saved if he leave him? We need to pray for them that he somehow God will work. Somehow God will speak to him. Lord, speak to them. Change his heart. And we know that in the next letter that he did. Amen. So no matter we read this and we're like man this is such a big sin but he still came back right so we need to always give we need to hold this in balance that while we give the instruction although it's very harsh we pray for them we believe for them amen okay okay chapter five are we okay we will take a break and then uh go to chapter